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I have not one shred of evidence to support the following notion on this issue:
Could this boundary issue be rising to accomodate a division of Phillips
neighborhood?  It is already divided de facto but it could become an official,
Official way of changing Phillips.
Wizard Marks, Central

David Brauer wrote:

> I'm kind of interested in this question, too -- how coercive will the city
> be about making boundary changes?
>
> For example, the document I received from the city planning says the
> "optimal size of a neighborhood may be one-quarter to one-third of a mile
> center to edge...". King Field -- whose only natural boundary is 35W to the
> east -- is almost twice that big, from 36th to 46th Sts. S.
>
> Does this mean the city will re-do our boundaries -- and by this, I mean
> split us up -- or will something happen only if we ask for a change? (The
> idea of a split or redraw has been contemplated over the years, but since we
> are in the middle of our NRP disbursements, I don't think anyone here is
> pushing this right now.)
>
> Anyone in a position to know, please let me or the list know. We're supposed
> to be discussing this at our neighborhood board meeting on Wednesday.
>
> Best,
> David Brauer
> King Field - Ward 10
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Stack
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 9:36 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: Neighborhood Boundaries
>
> >  From: David Fey  >
> >>  .... a "virtual boundary" that has no physical marker. In fact, this
> virtual boundary now runs right through the middle of one of the new
> industrial buildings in the Seward Place industrial park. I hope we will be
> able to work with the Longfellow neighborhood to realign this boundary ....
> >>
>
>           About a year ago Bryn Mawr and Harrison had an interesting
> negotiating meeting to clean up a border that was ill-defined in some
> locations - running through lots and buildings, etc. Most of the new line
> was decided upon in one meeting by three resident representatives from Bryn
> Mawr and three from Harrison, and facilitated by a staff person from the
> city planning department. Everyone seemed to have a little different idea. I
> was pushing for the use of Bassett Creek as the border as much as possible.
> First we completed the easy sections where all agreed on the creek. Then
> thru compromise we finally worked it all out. The final line uses a street,
> RR tracks, creek, and property line. Although part of the subsequently
> published property line section on the east end was a surprise to all six
> Harrison and Bryn Mawr participants.
>
> I had heard that this Harrison / Bryn Mawr border was the last ill-defined
> boundary to be digitized into the new GIS mapping system, but now it sounds
> like this was not the case. Southwest Journal did an article on the Bryn
> Mawr / Harrison border redraw (if this link does not work, search 'archived
> publications' with somelthing like "harrison border")
> http://www.swjournal.com/swjournal/myarticles.asp?H=1&S=212&P=47135&PubID=12
> 20
>
> Dave Stack
> Harrison
> (where Bassett Creek is the border for most, but not all, of the line with
> Bryn Mawr)



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I have not one shred of evidence to support the following notion on this
issue:&nbsp; Could this boundary issue be rising to accomodate a division
of Phillips neighborhood?&nbsp; It is already divided <I>de facto </I>but
it could become an official, Official way of changing Phillips.
<BR>Wizard Marks, Central

<P>David Brauer wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>I'm kind of interested in this question, too -- how
coercive will the city
<BR>be about making boundary changes?

<P>For example, the document I received from the city planning says the
<BR>"optimal size of a neighborhood may be one-quarter to one-third of
a mile
<BR>center to edge...". King Field -- whose only natural boundary is 35W
to the
<BR>east -- is almost twice that big, from 36th to 46th Sts. S.

<P>Does this mean the city will re-do our boundaries -- and by this, I
mean
<BR>split us up -- or will something happen only if we ask for a change?
(The
<BR>idea of a split or redraw has been contemplated over the years, but
since we
<BR>are in the middle of our NRP disbursements, I don't think anyone here
is
<BR>pushing this right now.)

<P>Anyone in a position to know, please let me or the list know. We're
supposed
<BR>to be discussing this at our neighborhood board meeting on Wednesday.

<P>Best,
<BR>David Brauer
<BR>King Field - Ward 10

<P>-----Original Message-----
<BR>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<BR>[<A 
HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>]On
Behalf Of Dave Stack
<BR>Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 9:36 AM
<BR>To: Multiple recipients of list
<BR>Subject: Re: Neighborhood Boundaries

<P>>&nbsp; From: David Fey&nbsp; >
<BR>>>&nbsp; .... a "virtual boundary" that has no physical marker. In
fact, this
<BR>virtual boundary now runs right through the middle of one of the new
<BR>industrial buildings in the Seward Place industrial park. I hope we
will be
<BR>able to work with the Longfellow neighborhood to realign this boundary
...
<BR>>>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; About a year
ago Bryn Mawr and Harrison had an interesting
<BR>negotiating meeting to clean up a border that was ill-defined in some
<BR>locations - running through lots and buildings, etc. Most of the new
line
<BR>was decided upon in one meeting by three resident representatives from
Bryn
<BR>Mawr and three from Harrison, and facilitated by a staff person from
the
<BR>city planning department. Everyone seemed to have a little different
idea. I
<BR>was pushing for the use of Bassett Creek as the border as much as possible.
<BR>First we completed the easy sections where all agreed on the creek.
Then
<BR>thru compromise we finally worked it all out. The final line uses a
street,
<BR>RR tracks, creek, and property line. Although part of the subsequently
<BR>published property line section on the east end was a surprise to all
six
<BR>Harrison and Bryn Mawr participants.

<P>I had heard that this Harrison / Bryn Mawr border was the last ill-defined
<BR>boundary to be digitized into the new GIS mapping system, but now it
sounds
<BR>like this was not the case. Southwest Journal did an article on the
Bryn
<BR>Mawr / Harrison border redraw (if this link does not work, search 'archived
<BR>publications' with somelthing like "harrison border")
<BR><A 
HREF="http://www.swjournal.com/swjournal/myarticles.asp?H=1&S=212&P=47135&PubID=12">http://www.swjournal.com/swjournal/myarticles.asp?H=1&amp;S=212&amp;P=47135&amp;PubID=12</A>
<BR>20

<P>Dave Stack
<BR>Harrison
<BR>(where Bassett Creek is the border for most, but not all, of the line
with
<BR>Bryn Mawr)</BLOCKQUOTE>
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