Excellent progress!
I also lost the night configuring NetBSD, setting the firewall, installing
apps... now is up and running, just to make those X11 symlinks. Also having
some difficulties in compiling a C library, but not mseide related...

On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 12:22 AM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Allez, the very last for tonight.
>
> I found the guilty of the icons and images not show and the error message
> of corrupt X11 atom.
> It is the image property bmo_graymask.
> And in all the mseide project all images or images list have "bmo_graymask
> = true".
> When setting bmo_graymask := false for all image and image-list the icon
> and image are ok.
>
>
> https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/assets/3421249/3452e988-1504-44df-a9e9-84ecdf65806a
>
> By the way, I never understood that property "bmo_graymask", setting it to
> true or false dont change anything on other os.
>
> It is a excellent news because fighting with X11 is a other story.
>
> So, perfect, the icons and images problems are solved.
> I will clean all the code, set bmo_graymask := false for eveybody and do
> the commit tonight.
>
> Only remains the access to directory in file dialog that resists.
> But not for longtime (but not for tonight).
>
> Fre;D
>
> ------------------------------
> *De :* Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com>
> *Envoyé :* dimanche 11 juin 2023 21:06
> *À :* General list for MSEide+MSEgui <
> mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release?
>
> Ooops, in previous post, the screenshot was without the run, here the good
> one.
> In the terminal, no more cry of X11 for bad atom.
>
>
> https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/assets/3421249/73bae81e-f28c-4790-b26c-5f408a9a2975
>
> Note too that file access via the file-dialog is not yet perfect, for
> creating the project I have to write the full path + name, playing with the
> directory-icons was not ok.
>
> So, to resume, still some work but it will be possible to terminate the
> combat.
>
> Fre;D
> ------------------------------
> *De :* Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com>
> *Envoyé :* dimanche 11 juin 2023 20:53
> *À :* General list for MSEide+MSEgui <
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> *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release?
>
> OK, I created a new project directly in NetBSD using mseide-pre-alpha,
> with a button and a image on his face.
> Compiled and run.
> And there the button has his ico-image:
>
> https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/assets/3421249/ec05ff42-2058-4c2f-9c39-746d9ac4d462
> And no more cry when passing with mouse on the button about invalid atom.
>
> Hum, hum, hum.
>
> So could it be that the _mfm.pas gives problem and maybe oblige, for all
> imported image, to re-do-it when compiling a project in NetBSD?
>
> Anyway I have to stop for the moment this exploration.
> Yes, it is not a combat out-of-the-box, but sure we will win.
>
> Fre;D
>
>
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> *De :* vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com>
> *Envoyé :* dimanche 11 juin 2023 19:53
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> *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release?
>
> Yeah, we are back to gtk and its connection to xlib...
>
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 8:44 PM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Re-hello Vasi.
>
> OK, I found the option in xfce4 to show the icons in menu.
>
> But, sadly, the icons in mseide-menu are still not shown.
> So it seems not to be related.
>
> Fre;D
> ------------------------------
> *De :* Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com>
> *Envoyé :* dimanche 11 juin 2023 19:03
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> mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release?
>
> Hello Vasi.
>
> Indeed, there are no icons in xfce4 menus.
> I think you get something there.
>
> I did try to have the icons shown but did not find a option for that.
>
> Maybe related with the not shown icons of mseide.
>
> If you try the last commit of mseide-msegui, you should compile the mseide
> and run it.
> There are 2 things that are not working (maybe more but I did not see).
>
>
>    1. The icons are not shown for menu and in the debugger form.
>    2. When you pass with the mouse on a menu with icons, there is a
>    message in console from where you run mseide: "a X11 atom is not
>    recognized".
>
>
> Maybe both are related.
>
> Sadly I have to take a break in msegui exploration this week, loooot of
> things to do.
>
> I hope you will have luck and that you will find the guilties.
> When I am more free, I will jump back into it.
>
> For DragonFly, till now I did not find a solution to make the keyboard
> work in a Xorg session and so did not try yet msegui on DragonFly.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Fre;D
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *De :* vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com>
> *Envoyé :* dimanche 11 juin 2023 15:13
> *À :* General list for MSEide+MSEgui <
> mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release?
>
> Fred, your xfce4 shows icons in menus?
>
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 5:49 AM Fred van Stappen <fi...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Re-hello Vasi.
>
> Ooops, sorry I did only read your first line, I did not see there was a
> follow.
>
> About the reboots, I my case, for testing msegui, I needed lot of reboot!
>
> This because at beginning, nothing was working and when finally the
> compilation was ok, running the ide crashed the system.
> So boot needed but, because of the "su" bug (that I did not know), I could
> not login after boot and must reinstall all the system.
>  And retesting the mseide binary after some change (and using the "su"
> with Xorg console) still crash, so reboot, without working login, -->
> reinstall the os, retest, recrash, reinstall, retest, recrash, ... untill I
> found the guitly: "su" in Xorg console.
>
> Now it is ok, if I have a crash, I can reboot without the need to
> reinstall all because I use "su" in shell-terminal of the system.
>
> Fre;D
>
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> *De :* vasi vasi <funl...@gmail.com>
> *Envoyé :* dimanche 11 juin 2023 01:22
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> *Objet :* Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New release?
>
> Actually, won't help to create a user as part of wheel group, having admin
> rights and using just sudo or doas? Can'r wait to install it... Last time,
> I did not had such problems... but it was a different computer...
>
> Thanks for the movie, Fred.
>
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 1:13 AM Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk <
> mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> Hello Fred,
>
> you wrote on Sat, 10 Jun 2023 17:37:44 +0000:
>
> > Note that with NetBSD using the "su" command in a Xorg terminal will
> > destroy the pam config (for login+password). And you will not be able to
> > login anymore (and must reinstall all the system).
>
> Ihat's a really _very_ bad thing...
>
> > So for all the things you need a root access, terminate the Xorg session
> > to come back to terminal-no-gui, login as normal user, then use the "su"
> > command to do the things that need root access.
>
> Does NetBSD's Xorg NOT have the LeftAlt-Ctrl-F<n> hot key function to
> switch to a text mode console? Or is that just disabled by default, as
> many Linux Xorg/Gooey^WGUI installations do it by now, somewhere setting
> a "ServerFlags" section 'Option     "DontVTSwitch"        "true"'?
>
> (There's a program, "chvt", that can do the switch too, but that requires
> root rights to be used, so it's useless here.)
>
> Creating a "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" file with just the contents
> "Section "ServerFlags"
>         Option      "DontVTSwitch"        "true"
>  EndSection"
> _might_ suffice, but it may neccessary to also include a line like
> '       Option      "ServerLayout" "X.org Configured"'
> for Xorg to accept it.
>
> Be sure to scan Xorg's log file (Xorg.0.log) whether it had the intended
> effect or just rose a warning or an error. Read the Xorg man page!
>
> > Or do this after boot, before to run "startx" command.
>
> You do not want to (re)boot a Unix for maintenance purposes only! Do you?
>
> (Ooops, THAT was looong-winded thread!)
>
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