On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 11:53:47AM -0400, Carlos wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 04:43:56PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > On 7/5/2023 3:18 PM, Carlos wrote:
> > > \showmakeup on \TeX\ shows a
> > >
> > > tSP:3.282
> > > THK:-1.721
> > > H__E
> > > X
> > > HK:-1.291
> > > SP:3.282
> >
> > no MWE includes so clueless
>
> \starttypescript[mylucidaserif]
> \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightRegular] [file:LucidaBrightRegular]
> \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightItalic] [file:LucidaBrightItalic]
> \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightDemiBold] [file:LucidaBrightDemiBold]
> \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightDemiItalic] [file:LucidaBrightDemiItalic]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [mylucidaserif]
> \setups[font:fallback:serif]
> \definefontsynonym[Serif] [LucidaBrightRegular]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym[SerifItalic] [LucidaBrightItalic]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym[SerifBold] [LucidaBrightDemiBold]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic] [LucidaBrightDemiItalic]
> [features=default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript[mylucidasans]
> \definefontsynonym[LucidaSansRegular] [file:LucidaSansRegular]
> \definefontsynonym[LucidaSansOblique] [file:LucidaSansOblique]
> \definefontsynonym[LucidaSansDemiBold] [file:LucidaSansDemiBold]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript[mylucidasans]
> \setups[font:fallback:sans]
> \definefontsynonym[Sans] [LucidaSansRegular] [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym[LucidaSansItalic] [LucidaSansOblique]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym[LucidaSansSansBold] [LucidaSansDemiBold]
> [features=default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [mylucidaserif]
> \definetypeface [mylucidaserif] [rm] [serif] [mylucidaserif] [default]
> \definetypeface [mylucidaserif] [ss] [sans] [mylucidasans] [default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \setupbodyfont[mylucidaserif]
> %\setupbodyfont[mylucidasans]
> %\setupbodyfont[14pt]
>
> \starttext
>
> Thus, I came to the conclusion that the designer of a new
> system must not only be the implementer and first
> large||scale user; the designer should also write the first
> user manual.
>
> The separation of any of these four components would have
> hurt \TeX\ significantly. If I had not participated fully in
> all these activities, literally hundreds of improvements
> would never have been made, because I would never have
> thought of them or perceived why they were important.
>
> But a system cannot be successful if it is too strongly
> influenced by a single person. Once the initial design is
> complete and fairly robust, the real test begins as people
> with many different viewpoints undertake their own
> experiments.
>
> \stoptext
Loading only one font this time around, but it makes no difference.
Also. thought of forgot to mention that the above with
\starttypescript[mylucida] or \starttypescript [mylucida]
yields the same results every time
and here is the log
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>
> >
> > > I assume that SP stands for space. Correct me if I'm wrong
> > >
> > > After reading some of the manuals that mention \showmakeup with and
> > > without [spaces] and so forth, I couldn't find any more info related
> > > to this.
> > >
> > > If anyone can provide me more information as to what does HK means there?
> >
> > horizontal kern
>
> thanks
>
> (sorry for duplicate messages. sending out to mailing list works
> sporadically Sometimes works, other times doesn't).
> >
> > > Anyhow
> > >
> > > If I were to have, say, a control _word_ such as \TeX\, the sequence of
> > > TeX kerning is thrown off. The only remedy would be to have a a \qquad
> > > preceding the control sequence e.g., {\qquad
> > > \TeX\ significantly} to sort of ameliorate this side-effect. But then
> > > again. Spacing is off. e.g.,
> >
> > no MWE so a space cam come from anywhwere
> >
> > > The separation of any of these four components would have
> > > hurt {\qquad\TeX\ significantly}. If I had not participated fully in
> >
> > x{\showmakeup[glue]x\qquad x}x
> >
> > imo \qquad is okay
> >
> > > But it's interesting that \showmakeup, kerning and spaces would
> > > display what's to be expected. And yet, the aformentioned set of
> > >
> > > tSP:3.282
> > > THK:-1.721
> > > H__E
> > > X
> > > HK:-1.291
> > > SP:3.282
> > >
> > > is accurate nevertheless. And a very nice implementation at that,
> > > but one I fear can't be included on a final document either.
> > >
> > > With that being said, the introduction of a \qquad, in addition to
> > > \showmakeup with, say, redundancy aside, whatever is preceding the \TeX\
> > > alongside the file would also introduce a space where no space was ever
> > > there before.
> > >
> > > Because of all of this, and unfortunately, \showmakeup is not quite
> > > helpful
> > > here either. Although it does so displays the amount of spaces and
> > > so forth, any addition of a \qquad also adds a very subtle unwanted
> > > space.
> >
> > qquad is not that subtle: 2em
> >
> > > And since we're looking here, I pressume, solely for accuracy and
> > > perfection, we're left here with neither: zero, zip. It evaporates.
> > puzzled
> >
> > > Dear Emily:
> > > I'm still confused as to what groups articles should be posted
> > > to. How about an example?
> > > -- Still Confused
> > >
> > > Dear Still:
> >
> > can we omit these confusing additions in mails to the list? looks / sounds
> > like a 'bot' to me
> >
> > Hans
> >
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> Imagine that Cray computer decides to make a personal computer. It has
> a 150 MHz processor, 200 megabytes of RAM, 1500 megabytes of disk
> storage, a screen resolution of 4096 x 4096 pixels, relies entirely on
> voice recognition for input, fits in your shirt pocket and costs $300.
> What's the first question that the computer community asks?
>
> "Is it PC compatible?"
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