Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On 9/19/07, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> btw,
>>
>> pdftex --ini &plain \\pdfoutput=1 \dump
>>
>> can do the same for you, but as said .. if the minimals would have plain
>> formats they would default to dvi anyway so it would be of no help to you
> 
> pdftex.fmt and mpost.mem would be perfectly fine. No need for
> plain.fmt (I guess). (And maybe xetex.fmt as a sugar, although that
> one might need some additional files.)

pdftex --ini -fmt=pdftex plain.tex \\pdfoutput=1 \dump

probably does that, but as said, everyone wants his/her own variant 
(patterns to start with -)

is you know how to use plain, then you also know how to make.call 
formats -)

btw,

luatools --make --compile plain
luatools --run plain

as stub is needed for plain in order to get the lua files loaded (also 
because we bypass kpse)

> It might be extremely simple to generate format the way you describe
> above, but perhaps
>     texexec --make pdftex mpost xetex
> could have done the the same job instead (since people are used to it)?

sure, but i haven't used plain in ages and using texexec for plain is 
kind of overkill, so i happily leave that to others to deal with

as said, minimals are minimal and should be more minimal instead of 
adding stuff; the current minimals are way to big (for me)

personally i always find it kind of annoying that when i download an 
achive with binaries, that i also get format files that i don't use (or 
know)

Hans

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