2007/12/5, Mojca Miklavec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello, > > I have noticed that ConTeXt uses "gr" for Greek, but the ISO code > seems to be "el". Less problematic: should agr be grc instead? > (OpenType uses PGR, but I'm not sure if that's the same thing.) > > What do the Greek experts say? > > > Well, English is a story on its own. "us" and "uk" don't have their > own codes as a separate language, and even worse: uk should stand for > Ukrainian!!! > > "Norwegian" (which is not a language at all) should be patched > (according to an old user request) once. > > A similar problem exists with: > - Chinese (cn instead of zn) > - Czech (cz instead of cs) > - Vietnamese (vn instead of vi) > - Ukrainian (ua instead of uk!!!) > > A case where I have no opinion: > - deo > > Some languages have already changed their codes in the past: > - Spanish: sp -> es > - German: du -> de > - Slovenian: si -> sl (no trace left, I hope :) > > My proposal would be to change: > - gr -> el > - agr -> grc > - cz -> cs > - vn -> vi > - deo -> ? (if at all) > gmh - German, Middle High (ca.1050-1500) > goh - German, Old High (ca.750-1050) > - cn -> zn (with *lots of care*) > > And to keep all the needed synonyms. (Besides that: to issue a warning > if possible.) > > I have no idea what to do with Ukrainian and UK though. > > ------------- > > Another issue: some languages need some little modifications or alternatives: > > 1.) In German, Slovenian, Croatian, (maybe in other languages as well) > ... one can use two types of quotes: > - „" U+201E/U+201C & ‚' U+201A/U+2018 (sorry, a bug in gmail reencodes them) > - »« U+00BB/U+00AB & ›‹ U+203A/U+2039
It is also common two write «text ‹text› text» in German. > It might make sense to be able to say something similar to > \mainlanguage > [german] > [quotes | quotationmarks | quotationstyle = > guillemots | guillemets or comma | ninesix] > > > 2.) I could imagine a Serbian user to request being able to typeset in > two scritpts (Latin or Cyrillic). That means: > - different labels > - loading different hyphenation patterns (even though transcription in > either direction can be made on the fly - I can confirm that a user > has already asked me if I know how to input text in cyrillic and get > output in latin - as he wasn't fluent in reading Cyrillic, he wanted > to misuse ConTeXt to help him read texts from web) > > So I could imagine making Cyrillic the default script, but still > letting one to use > > \mainlanguage > [serbian] > [script=latin, > % or even (if any user would be enthusiastic enough to provide code) > transliteration=on] > > and get latin labels and hyphenation patterns. > > > 3.) Solve the problem with English in a more elegant way: > > \mainlanguage > [english] > [alternative=us] > > or > > \mainlanguage[en][US] % as in "en_US.UTF-8" > \mainlanguage[en][GB] > \mainlanguage[en][AU] > \mainlanguage[de][AT] % if one ever figures out that "German from > Germany" isn't good enough > > Then, [us] should be kept as a synonym for \mainlanguage[en][US]. > > (The examples above could also be called via > \mainlanguage[de][alternative=guillemets] or As mentioned above this won't work. > \mainlanguage[sr][alternative=latin].) > > > 4.) deo > \mainlanguage[de][alternative=old] ??? (no idea what that is about) The old rules should't be used any longer :-) > Note that 1.) could be combined (should be "combinable") with this one. > > Any thoughts? I think we should keep the current syntax with mkii and allow better control in the mkiv code. Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________
