Here's an example - I was brought in a couple of years ago for a customer that 
wanted "to do VDI". Why? They didn't know, they just thought it was the 
solution to everything. They were going to move 5000 PCs off user desks and 
into the datacenter, just because they thought it was the right thing to do.

What we did do was implement a robust application containerization system, 
coupled with profile management features, that allowed them to quickly deploy 
new apps, provision them without installing them, and maintain a similar 
look-and-feel across their existing devices. They ended up using Citrix for a 
limited amount of XenApp systems (to allow remote application access) and 
approximately 35 "power user" VDI instances that gave remote access to some 
overseas students needing to use "heavy" applications.

5000 VDI down to 30 saved them a lot of money. Their main requirement was easy 
deployment of applications, a cut-down "roaming" experience and the ability to 
deal with Windows 10 feature upgrades without the hassle of broken applications.

TL:DR - VDI isn't the magic bullet. In truth, it isn't really a necessity for 
most projects. Some parts of it are, but you can replicate those with other 
tech.

Happy to offer bits of advice offline if you need some help defining the actual 
scope, just shout.

Cheers,



JR

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: 14 December 2017 17:34
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: VDI options

Very good points/questions, from you and Webster.  I will go back and see if I 
can get further clarification of what they really want.  VDI has been a 
buzzword thrown around here for years, but I was approached last week by my 
supervisor and told to look into it, but no real scope.

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of James Rankin
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:55 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: VDI options

I suppose it all depends on your use case for "VDI". Would a published desktop 
from a server do or does it have to be full fat client VDI for licensing or GPU 
reasons? Does it have to be on-premise or cloud? Citrix and VMware both have 
many pricing options now, which could be more palatable depending on what else 
you want with it (application packaging, profile management, etc.)

We are a partner with Parallels, Citrix and VMware FWIW. I suppose a more 
detailed breakdown of your actual VDI drivers would allow me to give a more 
in-depth response.

Cheers,




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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: 14 December 2017 16:21
To: 'NT System Admin Issues Discussion list' 
<ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>>
Subject: [NTSysADM] VDI options

I know there are tons of options for VDI out there today.  I'm asking what you 
guys are using, and why.

We are a VMWare shop, running ESXi 5.5, but don't own licensing for Horizon.  
That is currently the front-runner for the VDI project.

I have looked at Jentu, very briefly, and while it sounds awesome, there's not 
a whole lot of info on how it does what it claims to do.

I think Citrix would be a non-starter, due to licensing, but I haven't looked 
at Citrix in over 10 years, so if something has changed, I'd love to be 
enlightened.

Thanks for any and all input,

Joe Heaton
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Data and Technology Division
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