Win10 (and Server 1709) patch is out: 
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4056892/windows-10-update-kb4056892

Note that it only installs if the A/V vender has updated their engine! (Or you 
are using Windows Defender.)

There are 3 bugs according to Google. AMD is vulnerable to only one of them and 
AMD says that the chances of that bug being hit are close to zero.

-----Original Message-----
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 8:12 PM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Oh, this one really hurts...

No, it's not trivial. And I have to believe it's going to be cloud
providers who are hardest hit, initially.

First, MSFT is releasing a patch for Win10 today:
https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/3/16846784/microsoft-processor-bug-windows-10-fix

Second, it's not just Intel - it seems to also affect AMD and ARM64:
https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-responds-to-security-research-findings/

But AMD says it's not vulnerable:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/12/27/2

And, now it's *two* bugs, not just one:
https://meltdownattack.com/

And lastly, these flaws, along with this:
https://www.thezdi.com/blog/2017/10/04/vmware-escapology-how-to-houdini-the-hypervisor

make me more leery than ever of cloud services...

Kurt

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Mark Gottschalk <mgo...@2roads.com> wrote:
> "...The effects are still being benchmarked, however we're looking at a
> ballpark figure of five to 30 per cent slow down, depending on the task and
> the processor model..."
>
> PostgreSQL: 10%-23% slowdown.
>
> Wow. That is not trivial.
>
>
>
>
> From:        Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com>
> To:        ntsysadm <NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.com>, Patch Management Mailing
> List <patchmanagem...@listserv.patchmanagement.org>
> Date:        01/02/2018 06:59 PM
> Subject:        [NTSysADM] Oh, this one really hurts...
> Sent by:        <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
> ________________________________
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>
>
> "A fundamental design flaw in Intel's processor chips has forced a
> significant redesign of the Linux and Windows kernels to defang the
> chip-level security bug."
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/
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