Our original purchase was back in late 2002.  Not only did they negotiate then, 
they flat out beat the competition (who was, to put it lightly, stunned).  
Furthermore, the overall solution was far more robust than anyone else offered. 
 I can only speak to my personal experience, of course, and it is not my 
intention to belittle any other solution.

________________________________

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 2:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NAS/SAN


EMC is definitely top notch, but you can get better value elsewhere without 
sacrificing performance or reliability.

It has only been recently that they have been willing to negotiate on price.  
We went away from them at two of my employers because of that inflexibility, 
and we have never regretted it.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker




On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:37 PM, John Cook <[email protected]> wrote:


        +1 on the EMC, stellar reliability although there was a steep learning 
curve on the fiber management side. ISCI is definitly easier IMHO. 
        John W. Cook 
        Systems Administrator 
        Partnership For Strong Families 
        Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud

        

________________________________

        From: Mayo, Bill 
        
        To: NT System Admin Issues 
        
        Sent: Fri Oct 09 13:30:58 2009
        Subject: RE: NAS/SAN 
        

        

        +1
         
        My semi-sarcastic thought when I read the quote below (ask what they 
think about StoneFly) was that the answer would be, "Who?"  EMC, in particular, 
are in the big leagues.  I've never heard any other vendor say that their 
hardware wasn't up to snuff.  The knocks are generally "too expensive" and "too 
complicated".  As someone has mentioned before (in regards to the rebranded 
Dell versions), EMC will negotiate on price.  As for the "too complicated", if 
you can't figure out how to use it, you probably don't need to be administering 
the SAN anyway.
         
        My personal opinion is that when you are putting all your storage eggs 
in one basket, you want to be sure that the hardware is reliable and that the 
support is top notch.  In my experience, that is definitely the case with EMC.

________________________________

        From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:39 PM
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: NAS/SAN
        
        

        Ive never even heard of them.

         

        From: Rene de Haas [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:07 AM
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: Re: NAS/SAN

         

        Maybe ask the other guys (Lefthand, Dell, ...) what they think about 
StoneFly.

        On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:01 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

        They all like to point out the deficiencies of their competitors. Just 
tell him to focus on his products values and get a demo or at least a 
walk-through. 

        Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

________________________________

        From: "John Aldrich" <[email protected]> 

        Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:56:01 -0400

        To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>

        Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

         

        Thanks. That sort of talk made me suspicious that he was blowing smoke, 
but it seems like a good product, nonetheless, and if it comes in cheaper than 
th  Ô ťbig boy  ǝ I may go with that, especially since ASB recommends  Çśem. J

         

          

         

        From: Sean Martin [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:52 AM
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: Re: NAS/SAN

         

        That sounds like nonsense to me.

         

        Have you looked into Dell/EMCs CX4-120? Its the entry level CX unit 
that provides both fiber channel and iscsi connectivity via "UltraFlex I/O 
Modules". It supports 4GB/s and 8GB/s Fiber Channel and 1 GB/s and 10GB/s 
iSCSI. 

         

        -Sean

        On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, John Aldrich 
<[email protected]> wrote:

        Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer  ŽHe had 
some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need 
some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thin  ÇŽ 
he said that those are   ťdum  ǝ ISCSI devices that c  Ô Öt handle a lot of 
connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware 
can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the 
competition. 

         

        Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true?

         

        Thanks!

        

         

         

         



 

 


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