On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Travis Oliphant <tra...@continuum.io> wrote: >>> >>> Your points are well taken. However, my point is that this has been >>> discussed on an open mailing list. Things weren't *as* open as they could >>> have been, perhaps, in terms of board selection. But, there was >>> opportunity for people to provide input. >> >> I am on the numpy, scipy, matplotlib, ipython and cython mailing >> lists. Jarrod and Fernando are friends of mine. I've been obviously >> concerned about numpy governance for some time. I didn't know about >> this mailing list, had only a vague idea that some sort of foundation >> was being proposed and I had no idea at all that you'd selected a >> board. Would you say that was closer to 'open' or closer to 'closed'? > > I see it a different way. First, the Foundation is not a NumPy-governance > thing. Certainly it could grow in that direction over time, but it isn't > there now, nor is that its goal. Second, the Foundation is just getting > started. It's only come together over the past couple of weeks. The > fact that we are talking about it now, seems to me to indicate that it is > quite "open" --- certainly closer to 'open' then you seem to imply. > Also, the fact that there was a public mailing list for its discussion > certainly sounds "open" to me (poorly advertised I will grant you). I > tried to include as many people as I thought were interested by the responses > to the initial emails on the list. I reached out to people that contacted > me expressing their interest, and included them on the mailing list. I > can accept that I made mistakes. I can guarantee that I will make more. > Your feedback is appreciated and noted. > > The fact is that the Foundation is really a service organization that will > require a lot of work to run and administer. It's effectiveness at > fulfilling its mission will depend on how well it serves the group on this > list, as well as the other groups that are working on Python for Science. > I'm all for getting as many volunteers as we can get for the Foundation. > I've just been trying to get things organized. Sometimes this works best by > phone calls and direct contact, rather than mailing lists. > > For those interested. The Foundation mission is to: > > * Promote Open Source Software for Science > * Fund Open Source Projects in Science (currently NumPy, SciPy, > IPython, and Matplotlib are first-tier with a whole host of second-tier > projects that could received funding) > * through grants > * through code bounties > * through graduate-student scholarships > * Sponsor sprints > * Sponsor conferences > * Sponsor student travel > * etc., etc. > > Whether or not it can do any of those things depends on whether or not it can > raise money from people and organizations that benefit from the Scientific > Python Stack. All of this will be advertised more as the year progresses. >
This sounds really exciting. I'm looking forward to seeing what you, Mark, et al release over the next year. -Chris Jordan-Squire > Best regards, > > -Travis > _______________________________________________ > NumPy-Discussion mailing list > NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org > http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion _______________________________________________ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
