> > As a result, you are entirely wrong about backbones 'processing' IP ToS > tagged frames - no carrier that I know does respect user-set IP ToS tags > with regard to queueing. All IP transit is "best effort". (exceptions are > certain carriers offering IP-VPN, but that's beside this discussion, and > its not "transit" anyway). > > So, what is the bottom line about QoS in real world? It does not exist, > beyond given carrier's network, as specified by carrier's networking > staff and defined by carrier's business needs, available technologies and > equipment.
This is where your mistake is. The backbone is now owned by the telcos They can do whatever they want, aside from the fact that this marelous techno display just clouds the issue that when someone is buying common carrier class servers, A) They should have the right to do so at a fair price, and B) At no point in the chain should anyone have the right prevent fair access. In addition to that, they don't need to own the backbone (or even the last mile). They can interfere with Vonage anywhere from your phone jack/ATM Bridge, etc to the point where they hand off your packets to someone else. So the ISP can do it, the back bone CAN do it, the last mile can do it. They can all carve out portions of the net for unfair competition. Ruben -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://fairuse.nylxs.com "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME" http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
