On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 11:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006, Ruben Safir wrote:
> 
> > > As a result, you are entirely wrong about backbones 'processing' IP ToS
> > > tagged frames - no carrier that I know does respect user-set IP ToS tags
> > > with regard to queueing. All IP transit is "best effort". (exceptions are 
> > > certain carriers offering IP-VPN, but that's beside this discussion, and 
> > > its not "transit" anyway).
> > > 
> > > So, what is the bottom line about QoS in real world? It does not exist, 
> > > beyond given carrier's network, as specified by carrier's networking 
> > > staff and defined by carrier's business needs, available technologies and 
> > > equipment.
> > 
> > 
> > This is where your mistake is.  The backbone is now owned by the telcos
> It isn't, really. You did not wait for the 'part 2' of my response to 
> explain how the internet really works, and continue to speak about 
> something you have no idea about.
> 

You didn't do any such thing other than declare that such companies have
not shown any desire to do this yet.

Yeah, I trust them enough to want legal protection from them.

Ruben


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