Since my car was being serviced at the body shop listed in the flyer “for more
info”, I needed to remain silent up to this point! Got my car back today.....
Of course had I known they were involved in this, I would have gone somewhere
else, but I have used them for many years.
In any case, I reached out to Assemblyman Lopez, Senator Tkaczy, and US
Representative Chris Gibson on Tuesday. None of them or their staff got back
to me after my initial speaking with their respective staffs. I will try again
after the weekend.
I did speak with one of the guys at the body shop and floated some ideas his
way, one of which of course was to cancel the event. He said he had no control
over that and that I need to talk with the rod and gun club president, which I
will try to do next week.
As to getting the name correct for the agency who writes the laws, I agree that
this is very important, even though many hunters don’t respect NYS DEC over
their hunting regs in the first place – it just adds credibility to Senator
Avella’s press release.
There are many people in my little community of Palenville who are appalled by
the event and support any efforts to put an end to them. Rallying support form
the legislature will require some work, and will probably need to come from a
representative whose re-election doesn’t count on taking “the right stand”.
Below is something that might help us in our cause.
Larry Federman
President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society
Victory: Ducks Unlimited 2,000 Bird Pigeon Shoot Cancelled
Posted on March 19, 2014
We are pleased to announce that after receiving complaints about the event, and
less than one day after we released this video about the issue, Ducks
Unlimited has cancelled the shoot!
Here is the email we just received from Ducks Unlimited:
Dale Hall forwarded me your email regarding the pigeon shoot and asked that I
respond to you directly. Earlier today, several Ducks Unlimited members
contacted headquarters staff to make us aware that one of our committees was
planning to hold a pigeon shoot as part of a DU event. We have policies in
place holding our staff and local volunteers to high ethical and moral
standards, and do not condone wanton waste of wildlife or other animals. To
avoid the potential for wanton waste, the event committee has decided to change
the live pigeon event to a sporting clays shoot.
Sincerely,
Matt
Matt Coffey Senior Communications Specialist DUCKS UNLIMITED
This is an astounding turn of events; for 20 years Ducks Unlimited has been
holding these “phigeon shoots,” where innocent pigeons have sharp pheasant
tail feathers forced into their backs, and yet within one day, and working
together, we all were able to stop this vicious shoot.
From: Rick & Linda Kedenburg
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 4:11 PM
To: Stella Miller
Cc: Colleen / spider99 ; NYSBIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
I think we are all on the same side here both upstate & down.
Linda & I do a lot of spring birding in the Frost Valley section of the
catskills. There is quite a bit of land in the area that is owned by the NYC
for watershed & drinking water reasons. We have birded many areas there that
are sportsman clubs along the Willowemoc and some of that land is part of the
NYC Watershed.
I would think a State Senator from NYC would get some attention.
We stay with many good friends from this area, Claryville & Denning, and we
would say most are against this type of killing.
Rick
On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Stella Miller wrote:
I apologize if you felt lumped into the group, and took offense, but this was
not in anyway disparaging everyone that lives upstate. What I was doing was
agreeing with Will's assessment of the situation. The folks participating in
this event do happen to live "upstate". They will likely not appreciate
interference from folks that live "downstate" such as the Senator. Hence, my
comment. I was certainly not implying that everyone that lives north of
Westchester is some kind of slack jawed yokel and I am sorry you took it that
way, but I was referring to the people that are behind events such as these.
Please do not turn this into some kind of culture war between downstaters and
upstaters! This is about everyone coming together to put an end to something
that we all find offensive, the killing of animals for fun and prizes.
Stella
"Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding
whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the
understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is
between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy
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From: Colleen / spider99 <spide...@stny.rr.com>
To: Stella Miller <stella.mille...@yahoo.com>
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L <nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
Please don't lump all of us who live "upstate" together. There are a number
of us here in the Southern Tier and Finger Lakes regions that are appalled with
crow hunts. It is killing for the sake of killing, not to put food on the
table. Even though crows may steal and eat the young of other beloved birds,
crows have their own predators to hopefully balance that out. I don't believe
we need to be the ones to hunt them. I love crows!
So, please don't offend those who are trying to help.
Colleen
----- Original Message -----
From: Stella Miller
To: Will Raup ; Linda Orkin
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
Hi,
I had to run out today right after the press release was sent to me. I did
not get a chance to read it until now and see the error. Will is absolutely
correct, folks upstate will not blink an eye at this. Why should they? As Will
points out, it is legal by state DEC laws and that is what matters to them. It
is the two different worlds of "downstate" and "upstate"! I will reach out to
FoA, as they have the direct line to the Senator's office, and ask if he can
amend the release.
Thanks for bringing this to attention!
Stella
"Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as
holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to
spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people,
it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy
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From: Will Raup <hoaryredp...@hotmail.com>
To: Linda Orkin <wingmagi...@gmail.com>
Cc: Stella Miller <stella.mille...@yahoo.com>; NYSBIRDS-L
<nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release
Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will ignore
it. They don't care what a Senator from Queens or New York City DEC has to say
about any of it. It's legal by New York STATE DEC laws.
It's about perception. If the Senator had stated they consulted New York
State DEC in the release would carry more wait. Trust me, having grown up in
that area and know many who still live there, this statement is junk and will
be laughed off because of that one line. And I'm being serious.
Will Raup
Albany, NY
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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:37:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
From: wingmagi...@gmail.com
To: hoaryredp...@hotmail.com
CC: stella.mille...@yahoo.com; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
The senator did not use NYC DEC, the press release did, and only to say
that the NYC DEC says this is legal. Why would anyone stop reading after that?
The senator refers only to NYS.
Linda
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Will Raup <hoaryredp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Sadly the fact the Senator used the term "New York City DEC", means it
will be ignored. It should be edited immediately to say New York State DEC,
otherwise this will be dismissed by upstate residents who will just view this
as another "City" politician who has no idea what is going on north of New York
City.
The statement may seem minor, but many will stop reading after that
particular sentence. And you can bet the opposition will use that to their
advantage.
Will Raup
Albany, NY
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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 07:11:02 -0700
From: stella.mille...@yahoo.com
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Press release
To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu
Attached is the press release regarding the legislation.
Thanks,
Stella
"Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as
holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to
spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people,
it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy
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