Also try Becoming Wild. Same author Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: bounce-125693328-3714...@list.cornell.edu <bounce-125693328-3714...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Bruce Horwith <bruce.horw...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 6:17:29 AM To: Deborah Shapiro <dsni...@gmail.com> Cc: Joseph Wallace <joew...@gmail.com>; nysbirds-l <NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Barn Swallow question
And Carl Safina's Beyond Words: What Animals Think and Feel explores this dimension for the wider animal kingdom. Bruce Horwith 16 Salt Marsh Path East Hampton, NY 11937 (631) 599-0040 cell phone On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 10:01 PM Deborah Shapiro <dsni...@gmail.com<mailto:dsni...@gmail.com>> wrote: We underestimate the mental capacity of birds. While I don’t recall that she discusses playful behavior, Jennifer Ackerman’s book The Genius of Birds gives many examples of bird cognition that are fascinated and unexpected. Great discussion. Deborah On Jun 7, 2021, at 9:46 PM, Joseph Wallace <joew...@gmail.com<mailto:joew...@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks, everyone for the ongoing conversation. This is all so fascinating. Corvids and parrots have been known as game-players (and tricksters) for a long time, and it doesn't surprise me that gulls, already adept at a creative kind of tool-using (stationery rocks to drop clams on), might also turn objects into toys. But swallows did surprise me...and made me wonder what other species/families might engage in play. Warblers? Gnatcatchers? It's hard for me to visualize, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. 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