I believe james agreed to some items when replying to this email from Paul[1]

[1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&m=114020329404885&w=2

On 2/20/06, Hiram Chirino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then I perhaps miss-directed the email.  Sorry for miss understanding
> you.
>
> Is anybody on this mailing list who is willing to setup up to do the
> code merge that seems to be a hop topic recently???
>
> Regards,
> Hiram
>
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2006, at 10:08 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>
> > I am asking to postpone the decision till we set up the infra stuff.
> > that's all. As i mentioned in several previous emails[1]
> >
> > "People who end up sweating doing the day-to-day work will take the
> > decisions"
> >
> > So far no one has sweated on the "APACHE ODE PROJECT".
> >
> > Thanks,
> > dims
> >
> > [1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-
> > general&m=114023665807885&w=2
> >
> >
> > On 2/20/06, Hiram Chirino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Forwarding to ode-dev list from general incubator.
> >>
> >> So if the PPMC or PMC do not make technical decisions, why are you as
> >> non-code contributor (for now), trying to force a code merge?
> >> I would expect that any such proposal would come from a active
> >> commiter from the community.  In other words, he who proposes such a
> >> beast of work has the responsibility for implementing it.  :)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Hiram
> >>
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >>> From: "Davanum Srinivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Date: February 20, 2006 9:40:24 AM EST
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: Ode / BPEL Donation of BPEL 2.0 Engine
> >>> Reply-To: [email protected]
> >>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>> Technical decisions do not belong to the PMC/PPMC. Nor do they
> >>> belong
> >>> in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's get the ball rolling and attack these on
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>> On 2/20/06, Hiram Chirino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 18, 2006, at 2:23 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Why are you being so negative? Let's try to make it work. If it
> >>>>> does
> >>>>> not then we decide what do next as a PPMC.
> >>>>
> >>>> I did not know that technical decisions were the
> >>>> responsibilities of
> >>>> the PMC/PPMC.  Could you explain further?
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Being negative for one second...i can safely say that in the worst
> >>>>> case scenario - Sybase and PXE folks do have other choices
> >>>>> (codehaus,sf etc...) as they own the copyright to the code that
> >>>>> they
> >>>>> contribute.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It's not nice to tell folks to leave if they don't want to do it
> >>>> you
> >>>> way.  As I see it, the ODE community which is made up mostly by the
> >>>> code contributers, still does not have consensus actually doing a
> >>>> code merge.  So lets not go crazy telling folks they should
> >>>> elsewhere
> >>>> when there is no need to do that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Hiram
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> thanks,
> >>>>> dims
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2/18/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> To be clear - I was talking about the 2 Apache code bases
> >>>>>> which are
> >>>>>> seeded from Sybase and PXE.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> e.g. will existing PXE users happily sit on their hands for a
> >>>>>> year
> >>>>>> patiently waiting for the grand unification? What if we can never
> >>>>>> agree the "one true engine"?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Users who come to our projects
> >>>>>>> should be focused on what we're doing, and not looking for
> >>>>>>> support for
> >>>>>>> vendor products.  Keep in mind that the package names will
> >>>>>>> change to
> >>>>>>> org.apache.*,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I know - its exactly the org.apache.*  code I was talking about.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> James
> >>>>>> -------
> >>>>>> http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/
> >>>>>>
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