Maciej,

My only point is that "BpelServer.start(pid,sticky)" seems to be doing the
same thing as ...

suspend/resume is a user wishing
to prevent the process from being active until such time as the user
decides to change his mind

within a startup context.

I'm not going to belabor the point and will incorporate the distinction ( as
you have defined it ) within the deploy design.

Lance

On 8/18/06, Maciej Szefler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Lance,

The concern is integration into life cycle mechanisms of the enclosing
infrastructure. In the JBI example, the processing on behalf of a
process should not begin until JBI decides to "start" the service unit
that contains that process. Using the PMAPI in this case is not
appropriate -- the use case for a pmapi suspend/resume is a user wishing
to prevent the process from being active until such time as the user
decides to change his mind. The use-case for "start" is an orderly
startup of the engine and IL.

-maciej



On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 16:11 -0600, Lance Waterman wrote:
> The JBI IL starts an ODE server
>
> BpelServer.start()
>
> The BpelServer pulls all ProcessDAO's out of the DB and loads all into
> memory. The ProcessDAO has a status flag which indicates
> "suspended"/"started". Only "started" processes can accept message
> events from the ODE router. Note: by default JBI deployed processes
> are loaded into memory in a "suspended" state.
>
> The IL iterates over it's list of pids that comprise a service unit
> and calls:
>
> BpelServer.getManagementFacade().resume(pid,sticky)
>
> The ProcessDAO status flag is set to "started" and the process is now
> available to accept message events from the ODE router.
>
> Is the concern here that loading all JBI ProcessDAO's into memory is a
> lot of overhead?
>
> Lance
>
>


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