> > The tests can be made to pass by setting the openjpa.DetachState
> > property to 'fgs',
> 
> 'loaded' is the proper default.  If the CTS is relying on any state  
> being loaded after a call to getReference(), then those CTS 
> tests are  
> wrong and should be reported as such.  The description of  
> EntityManager.getReference explicitly states that state might be  
> lazily fetched and that you can't rely on the state being available  
> on detach unless you've accessed it.

Yes, agreed. The tests have been challenged and are being removed from
the CTS. Nonetheless, the behavior that the CTS relied on still seems
valuable.

I should have been more clear in my original email: I'm not trying to
figure out how to pass the CTS test, but am wondering if we should be
adding the loaded+fetchgroup option, since it seems useful.

-Patrick
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