Hi there,
We should just be thankful that the considerable work of Fermat, Poincare
and others existed in a time where nobody had found a way to own a plot of
algebra. Without their work, or with an inability to use their work, R, S,
and A would have been unlikely to derive the simple algebraic identities
that they did. (Damned useful identities I'll admit, but they remain very
natural deductions from existing algebra which evolved a long way without
anyone claiming to own any of it).
Your regard of a basic algebraic equation (or two) as "property" that
cannot be used without the exchange of money is, to me, absurd - of course
there is a massive legal framework agreeing with you so there we have it.
I'd agree that to claim R, S, and A didn't come up with the work would be
as injust as theft, but the fact that simply applying their (extremely
basic) mathematical deductions requires the paying of an enormous fee is
amongst the more absurd things on this earth.
Thank god finite mathematics, complexity theory, logic and linear algebra
were all mature sciences before a warped enough society could emerge that
might have otherwise classified the lot as intellectual property.
Regards,
Geoff
> On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:32:27 -0700, Spector, Brian wrote:
>
> >Greetings Lee,
> >
> >Umm.....
> >
> >maybe we should talk. Maybe you should quit talking???...
> >
> >So your mother raised a thief? You know stealing intellectual property is
> >the same as shoplifting your local Circle K? No distinction at all,
> >regardless of whatever rational argument you want to put behind it.
> >
> >Regards.
> >
> >Brian Spector
> >
> >Brian Spector
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Leland V. Lammert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 7:46 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Cc: David Lang
> >Subject: Re: What US companies need to know about RSA
> >
> >
> >At 04:31 PM 9/23/99 , Bodo Moeller wrote:
> >>David Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>
> >> > This is getting slightly off-topic, but without risking it what options
> >do
> >> > US companies have for items such as the SSLwrapper that was mentioned,
> >or
> >> > other similar items.
> >>
> >>Option 1: Wait a year to let the patent expire.
> >>
> >>Option 2: Use only DSA-based ciphers ("no-rsa" configuration) and lose
> >>compatibility with various popular HTTPS browsers.
> >>
> >>Option 3: Buy one of the licensed products.
> >
> >Option 4: Install OpenSSL with RSA support. No risk at all (unless you have
> >a hundred legal beagles on staff that must sign off). RSA is not even going
> >to find out about you, .. much less press an infringement action -
> >considering their legal costs! Your only risk is loss of a inconsequential
> >amount of professional reputation - but, considering the absolutely
> >ludicrous patent that RSA has, that is one our company, for one, is willing
> >to take. If nothing else, should you ever get a registered 'Cease and
> >Desist' letter from RSA, which they MUST do prior to any legal action, THEN
> >you can go purchase a product and show them THAT license.
> >
> > Lee
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