i would certainly rank ubs as among the top 5 accounting software for small business along with peachtree and quickbooks. ubs is so good, that sage software international bought into the company. and in malaysia it retails from rm700. in usa, quickbooks retails from us$100.
if i am not mistaken, ubs started out as a software by a chinese secondary school teacher in penang to teach his students about accounting. his passion has made learning and using accounting software so easy and affordable for malaysian business. the value of software is not in the price but in how many have benefited from it. just ask the thousands of business owners that are using ubs. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:31 PM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote: > Hi Marcus, > Your email account seems to kick back after last mail to u. So i will use > this instead. Thanks for the link u gave in it. > > Yes, it was very interesting talking to you about your project for many > reasons: > 1. It is a Malaysian development effort > 2. It uses its own business model (saying its not FLOSS is not relevant > here. It is the business experience and insight that you bring that i value) > 3. We can enrich our own experience as to how best to replicate skillsets > locally. > Ok, i accept your point on post-uni developer training. We must make a note > to caveat that - no freshie training or join in during secondary school > level or younger as i alluded to about Azrul's weekend Java course for kids. > > > Marcus wrote: > > Malaysia does have its own sofware , the UBS accounting > and InternetNow MailServer :-) . InternetNow had fairly good success in > Malaysia, handful in Singapore and now working out a distribution deal in > Iran for the latest MailNow!5 and with USA's After logic. > What Inow don't have is branding and mentality advantage attributes to our > foregin competitors such as Merak, Mdaemon and well in some ways , MS > Exchange. > > As a developer in a company pushing locally developed software for years in > Malaysia (not project based, not customized one off solutions), i guess the > biggest challenge we face > is : > 1. Matching salary Vs Multinational offers. You guys have any idea what > CodeMaster offer fresh grads...go take a peek. > 2. Lack of System developers, (tons of webs developers though..) > 3. No recognition from Gov so far, ok we won the PIKOM award and an award > from APMIITA (in my year apmiita first prize went to a kid who did a > football website, since then we decided > its not worth joining such awards) > > I would want to apologize as Inow sofwares are not in Open Source, so far > in reality, none of our customers ask for the source nor bothered about it. > I had a talk with Red1 during the mygosscon BOF > and tried to learn as much as i can about how Open source helped him, in > some ways though, he is still unique since he is not just dling and pushing > what everyone else can do, he has somehow (despite not being a developer!) > end up as a head of the project. We have met a lot of people with all kinds > of emnity against us succeeding as local software, some just put as on the > wayside as "re-inventing the wheel", some "no match for US products" but at > the its the local reseller here and corporate market welcome us the most. > > As for competent developers, i doubt pumping 8k a month can make anything > out. Programming has always been a very individual choice and talent. What > can be done is maybe at the uni levels, > open up their standard and exposure, correct the wrong mentality that > programming is a beginner's job or "uncool" and put competitions that > matches against foreigners programmers. If one can't compare, one cant > understand. > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
