Not $20,000.

 

There is a difference between "dedicated" and "a continuous 1Gbps stream of
data"

 

A number of CVC lines are purchased. Data transmission is spread over the
entire lot.

 

If you look at international prices, 1Gbps costs around $105 per month. In
Japan, it is possible to get a 2Gbps connection for $20 per month.

 

So why would Australia cost $20,000 per month? Ridiculous. No one would
purchase it. So they would be forced to lower prices to a point where they'd
get people to open their wallets.

 

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Joseph Cooney
Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013 6:14 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition

 

I'm confused. What WOULD a dedicated gigabit connection cost under the NBN?

On Nov 12, 2013 5:10 PM, "Tony Wright" <tonyw...@gmail.com
<mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com> > wrote:

It was deceptive rubbish.

 

He implied that it would cost $20,000 for every household.

 

It's a blatant lie.

 

 

 

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>
] On Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013 5:58 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition

 

On 12 November 2013 15:51, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com
<mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

[ ... ]

 

That is a typically deceptive political response and is a load of complete
Liberal Party BS and Malcolm Turnbull lost any credibility he had with me
when he said it. It won't cost $20,000 a month for ANY household. A single
household never needs a continuous stream of data getting a maximum of 1Gbps
at all times, so it is shared among a whole bunch a households. So a single
CVC line might be split between 10 to 20 houses.

 

There is nothing incorrect in what he said, 1gbps flat chat is $20K a month
wholesale. End of story. More over, that's significantly more expensive than
what you can buy today.

 

If Joe Punter uses less, great for him, but a school or a SME might want to
use more. 

 

It begs the question, what is the average the NBN is designed for? Any sort
of application that involves bulk data transfers is out of bounds cost wise
- which is somewhat ironic.  

 

 On top of this, CVC charges will have to come down over time due to economy
of scale. See:
<http://drpeering.net/white-papers/Internet-Transit-Pricing-Historical-And-P
rojected.php>
http://drpeering.net/white-papers/Internet-Transit-Pricing-Historical-And-Pr
ojected.php

Historically, transit pricing has dropped by around 1/3rd every year since
1998.

 

CVC and IP Transit are completely different things. NBN Co doesn't even sell
IP Transit. 

 

You need to pay for both. And you pay CVC even if the data is 'on net' and
never leaves your RSP (i.e. watching the TV or downloading freezone).

 

CVC isn't going to go down ever because there is no incentive for it to as
competitive technologies are outlawed (except for LTE, etc)

 

David.

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