The price in other countries seems irrelevant. Those conditions don't exist
here, otherwise the service would exist already, and we wouldn't be having
this conversation.

So, given the distinction you've created between 'dedicated' and
'continuous' what would the prices be for those two different types of
services under the NBN?
On Nov 12, 2013 5:18 PM, "Tony Wright" <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not $20,000.
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> There is a difference between “dedicated” and “a continuous 1Gbps stream
> of data”
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> A number of CVC lines are purchased. Data transmission is spread over the
> entire lot.
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> If you look at international prices, 1Gbps costs around $105 per month. In
> Japan, it is possible to get a 2Gbps connection for $20 per month.
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> So why would Australia cost $20,000 per month? Ridiculous. No one would
> purchase it. So they would be forced to lower prices to a point where
> they’d get people to open their wallets.
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> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Cooney
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 12 November 2013 6:14 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* RE: NBN Petition
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>
>
> I'm confused. What WOULD a dedicated gigabit connection cost under the NBN?
>
> On Nov 12, 2013 5:10 PM, "Tony Wright" <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> It was deceptive rubbish.
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> He implied that it would cost $20,000 for every household.
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> It’s a blatant lie.
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> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 12 November 2013 5:58 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
>
>
>
> On 12 November 2013 15:51, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> [ ... ]
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> That is a typically deceptive political response and is a load of complete
> Liberal Party BS and Malcolm Turnbull lost any credibility he had with me
> when he said it. It won’t cost $20,000 a month for ANY household. A single
> household never needs a continuous stream of data getting a maximum of
> 1Gbps at all times, so it is shared among a whole bunch a households. So a
> single CVC line might be split between 10 to 20 houses.
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> There is nothing incorrect in what he said, 1gbps flat chat is $20K a
> month wholesale. End of story. More over, that's *significantly more
> expensive* than what you can buy today.
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> If Joe Punter uses less, great for him, but a school or a SME might want
> to use more.
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> It begs the question, what is the average the NBN is designed for? Any
> sort of application that involves bulk data transfers is out of bounds cost
> wise - which is somewhat ironic.
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>  On top of this, CVC charges will have to come down over time due to
> economy of scale. See:
> http://drpeering.net/white-papers/Internet-Transit-Pricing-Historical-And-Projected.php
>
> Historically, transit pricing has dropped by around 1/3rd every year
> since 1998.
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>
> CVC and IP Transit are *completely different things*. NBN Co doesn't even
> sell IP Transit.
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> You need to pay for both. And you pay CVC even if the data is 'on net' and
> never leaves your RSP (i.e. watching the TV or downloading freezone).
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> CVC isn't going to go down ever because there is no incentive for it to as
> competitive technologies are outlawed (except for LTE, etc)
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> David.
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>

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