I wasn’t aware that Scott Guthrie had responsibility for Silverlight and XAML initially.
_____ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:28 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere) inline (but not const) On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:19 PM, ILT (O) <il.tho...@outlook.com> wrote: Silverlight “end-of-life” is a widely-felt gripe with developers, from my reading (eg, just today – Visual Studio Magazine – “Satya Nadella's To-Do List” [link <http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2014/02/11/satya-nadellas-to-do-list.aspx> ] – Andrew Brust). There are several offerings of advice to the new CEO, and to Scott Guthrie as interim head of Enterprise and Cloud at Microsoft. _____ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:49 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Migrating TFS Greg? Where are you? This is your cue. Ah! What! I'm awake ... I saw Silverlight mentioned as dead and abandoned. Guess what I've been doing all day today .. expanding a large Silverlight 5 app. We have no alternative, we've spent years developing the app and it's in use by some gigantic companies internationally. So is COBOL and FORTRAN What the hell else can we do? Seriously! Discussion here last year pointed out that HTML5 is the only alternative to delivering rich apps on the browser desktop, but it groans under stress and I was warned that it just can't show attractive interactive charts of the type available with the ComponentOne SL libraries. Hope that MS are feeling nice and release it to SourceForge. Also, I have subscribed to MSDN Magazine (MSJ as it was) since 1993 and I agree that it is generally uninteresting these days because it's mostly about JavaScript, Stores, Azure, Windows RT and Windows 8 (the latest groovy stuff you're talking about). I find I flip through new issues and chuck them aside. I like academic articles, but Petzold's and McCaffrey's articles are so abstract they're in the twilight zone. MSJ - used to be a good magazine. Matt Pietrek, Paul DiLascia ( "If this code works, it was written by Paul DiLascia. If not, I don't know who wrote it".) were awesome. It's a puff piece now. My day to day development experience is consistently as infuriating and unpredictable as ever. Projects won't build, IIS goes haywire with code 500s, versions clash, dependencies are all over the shop, kits don't work, samples are simplistic, designers crash, I'm coding XAML UIs by hand, I have to learn WiX, I have to run VS2013 and VS2012 side by side due to COM problems, my VS2013 is diseased, and so on. I get up in the morning and the things that worked the night before are all on the fritz. Sometimes I miss punch cards. Wix, damnable stuff makes your eyes bleed to read it. However, I don't want to fuel the jovial atmosphere of impending doom that pervades this forum ;-) Greg -- Meski <http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv> http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills