Evaluation outcome.

   - Jira
   Great price cloud or home server for 10 users - 10 U.S. bucks.
   Gave it 4Gb ram on my VirtualBox ubuntu instance , use Postgresql as
   database - runs sweetly

   Not as fully feature rich as TargetProcess, but can be enhanced by
   add-ons. Prices of add-ons reasonable for own-server but "add up" when on a
   cloud based installation.

   Cannot add linked issues to stories on the fly as you create them (but
   can do later or possibly by an add-on)

   Best thing is the streamlined integration with Confluence and Bitbucket.
   (and probably the other packages if I care to use them).

   - Confluence
   I've been dreaming about a product such as this, and here it is sitting
   there as a product offering to enhance Bitbucket all this time.
   I just love how easy it is to connect from a meeting, document or blog
   to feature/story/bug in Jira or vice-versa.   It is a wiki on steroids.
   I've put pages all over the place and managed organise them easily.


Decision:
A buy.   TargetProcess and Redmine are both excellent products and
compelling; but the smoother Confluence integration wins me over to  Jira .
I was able to import almost all of my T.P. data to Jira.

I'm still concerned about disaster recovery and portability eg. deployment
from server to cloud or to a new URL base. I'd say it is non-trivial,
especially if add-ons are used (which unfortunately are almost a
necessity). Disaster recovery probably most effective with virtual machine
archiving.

- Stuart



On 5 February 2016 at 10:50, Stuart Kinnear <stu...@skproactive.com> wrote:

> I have been using TargetProcess for a number of years and thought I'd have
> a change of scene. A bit of time has given me the opportunity to check out
> a couple of other options. - Jira and Redmine. The pricing of these
> products suit my tiny operation nicely.  My applications are quite
> extensive so the simple bug tracking features of Bitbucket won't cut it.
>
> Given that Atlassian have a suite of products that complement each other I
> thought that Jira and Confluence would be go to work with Bitbucket.
>
> Anyway, I downloaded and installed the products on an Ubuntu server hosted
> in VirtualBox. The instance was allocated 2Gb memory and 4 cores.
>
> Jira is a greedy beast and runs at a painful pace (using the java
> database, haven't yet tried postgresql). If I allocated 4Gb it is more
> acceptable - or ran it in Docker on the bare machine.
>
> Aside the performance gripe I tried a backup and restore exercise. I
> simple exported the data comprised of 12 projects, some with issues, some
> without and tried to restore. The application simply wouldn't co-operate
> and refused to load up.
>
> Is it me or Jira really this bad ? - how is this product so popular ?
> It's compelling because of the hooks with other applications and numerous
> add-ons, but the underlying robustness leaves me shuddering.  Is it better
> to use postgresql and use its backup/restore/replication facility - has
> anyone successfully worked on this exercise?
>
> Redmine is an interesting product, its performance is an order of
> magnitude faster than both TargetProcess  and Jira.  I haven't fully tried
> out the backup and restore, nor Bitbucket integration. Unfortunately the
> week of free time is evaporating.
>
> I see Confluence as being the missing link in my operation as meetings and
> thought processes can be documented with hyperlinks to the project
> management and source control products - given that Jira & Bitbucket are
> Atlassian products, the process of integration is easy. I'm keen to see if
> Redmine or Targetprocess could achieve the same.
>
> TargetProcess has a decent feature set, for which in Jira has to be
> cobbled together. Maybe I'll stick to it !
>
> --
> Friday discussion - what are you guys using or comments ?
>
>
>
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