I think you were to quick to judge the speaker in the first place, to
just listen or read one or two reviews from access world is not
enough. You should also investigate furder than that. Sometimes some
of those reviews don't contain enough info, like the latest review I
red on the ptn2. Maybe you should go find a demo and here it out. Its
defnitly better than the older model, not sure how it compare to
plextalk, but anything better than the older model I consider as an
improvement. I agree about your remarks about the mountbatten though.
Its just that it would be crazy to buy a voice sense if your main goal
would be to use it to listen books. Not really smart as a NoteTaker is
ment to do so much more.

On 23/09/2013, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> Thanks for that and I do appreciate your comments regarding the sound of the
> internal speaker, I'll investigate again.
>
>
> On 23/09/2013, at 11:02 AM, Adrian Spratt <adr...@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
>
>> No, Dane. I was suggesting that the revision distributed by HW after the
>> review you read apparently improved the speaker quality. Like you, I
>> assume that the quality before then was bad. That review made me balk at
>> buying the new Stream until I read about  the improvements and spoke to an
>> HW tech guy who sounded honest and reliable. Everyone who has heard my
>> Stream speaker is impressed, considering its size.
>>
>> I find HW to be responsive to user suggestions, and they seem to
>> incorporate them pretty quickly.
>>
>> I believe Aidan's and other lister comments make a good case for the
>> Stream as a first-rate device for reading books and other materials. You
>> can pause it on the proverbial dime, fast-forward and rewind in reliable
>> increments, set bookmarks and so much more.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>> Trethowan
>> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:28 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
>>
>> Nothing like hands-on experience, so the sound from the internal speaker
>> of the Victor Reader Stream isn't muffled? I wonder why the reviewer then
>> said it was/ Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting what you're saying as
>> you own a machine but I wonder if the Plextalk Pocket or the Booksense
>> sounds better.
>>
>> Anything could sound better than that awful internal speaker on the older
>> victor Reader stream model, that was something right out of the absolutely
>> awful basket but then again, with NFB - No Friends Of The Blind - having
>> input into the design? Well one really couldn't expect all that much
>> better.
>>
>>
>> On 23/09/2013, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Spratt <adr...@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Appended to that Accessworld article was HumanWare's response in which
>>> they thank the reviewer for the suggestions and promise upcoming
>>> revisions to address them. HW has since put out a revision that was on
>>> the new Stream when I bought mine. The sound from the speaker is not
>>> muffled.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>>> Trethowan
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:08 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
>>>
>>> Okay, since this thread has drifted so far away from the Victor Reader
>>> Stream I thought I'd offer my 2 cents worth regarding Talking Book
>>> players.
>>>
>>> Regarding the Victor Reader Stream? Well I doubt I'll be getting one as
>>> the machine offers me nothing whatever I don't have accept for an extra
>>> hole burnt in my pocket I don't need.
>>>
>>> My assessment is based on 2 reviews I've read over the last few months in
>>> the Access World publication and the reviews presented in Access World
>>> are very independent in nature and presentation so I feel I'm reliable
>>> informed.
>>>
>>> I understand that several bugs in the new victor Reader Stream model have
>>> been a-dressed but this fact alone still won't convince me to buy a
>>> Stream, what convinces me not to buy one is the statement in the review
>>> articles that the speaker of the Stream - whilst far better than that
>>> found on the older model - is still muffled.
>>>
>>> As it happens I was in the right place at the right time and managed to
>>> purchase a VoiceSense at a perfectly reasonable price, the seller no
>>> longer required its use as he had fully migrated to an IOS setup.
>>>
>>> The Voicesense alone in my view is the best talking book player I've ever
>>> owned offering a Daisy player and support for just about every other
>>> audio format on the planet, you can even stream radio stations to it if
>>> they have an MP3, AAC or WMA stream.
>>>
>>> Now I know a new Voicesense isn't cheap but the price has come down
>>> considerably so given that fact and that the Voicesense has been
>>> specifically designed with accessibility in mind? Well all I say is that
>>> if you can manage to get your hands on one of these machines you'll be
>>> doing yourself a huge favour.
>>>
>>> I like the attitude of Hims Inc, the idea seems to be to allow the Sense
>>> machines to "integrate" into modern technology seamlessly and as
>>> unintrusively as is possible, an example of this is the Dropbox client
>>> now found on the Voicesense.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23/09/2013, at 3:47 AM, Sunshine <sunsh...@abe.midco.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It could be that the  pairing is different from most bluetooth devices.
>>>> there are some devices that have a different way of pairing to the
>>>> booksense.
>>>> what happens when you try and pair the logetec to the booksense?
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Brian Olesen" <br...@blindkom.dk>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:21 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HI,
>>>> Oh sad to hear, but there are so many Bluetooth profiles out there. It
>>>> works
>>>> perfectly on a Bose bluetooth speaker bar.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>>>> From: Anders Holmberg
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:05 AM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>> I have the booksens and i love it.
>>>> Sadly my logitech headset seems not to work with the booksense.
>>>> /A
>>>> 21 sep 2013 kl. 21:45 skrev Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Another more interesting unit is the one from Hims International.
>>>>> It's called book sence.
>>>>> This one you can connect to a speaker system via bluetooth. It has an
>>>>> FM
>>>>> radio and is loaded with tons of other useful nice features.
>>>>> But the Victor Stream 2 you asked about also is a very nice daisy
>>>>> player.
>>>>> The new version even has stereo recording.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- From: Adrian Spratt
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:30 PM
>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: RE: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
>>>>>
>>>>> Excellent summary, Aidan. I have the new Stream, but I haven't tested
>>>>> all
>>>>> the features you mention, including the Wi-Fi connection. I'd add a
>>>>> few
>>>>> notes.
>>>>>
>>>>> First, the new Stream reports how much battery charge is left in
>>>>> percentage terms, and also how much power has been restored during
>>>>> recharge.
>>>>>
>>>>> Second, when you move from shelf to shelf, the Stream remembers where
>>>>> you
>>>>> were in each one even after the unit is powered down. On the old
>>>>> device,
>>>>> the Stream remembered only where you had been when the unit shut down,
>>>>> but
>>>>> not where you'd been on each shelf.
>>>>>
>>>>> Third, for NLS users, the new Stream moves faster between titles at
>>>>> level
>>>>> 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fourth, the speaker is significantly louder and clearer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fifth, the unit is smaller. As I recall, HumanWare says it's smaller by
>>>>> a
>>>>> third. I didn't think it would matter, but it does.
>>>>>
>>>>> My sixth point could go either way. The buttons are much more
>>>>> sensitive.
>>>>> The drawback is that if I move while carrying the Stream on its strap
>>>>> and
>>>>> it even lightly touches clothing or something else, a button is certain
>>>>> to
>>>>> be pressed, interrupting my reading and forcing me to press a key or
>>>>> two
>>>>> to get things going again. Despite this occasional annoyance, I like
>>>>> how
>>>>> responsive the keys are.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Aidan
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:09 PM
>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Victor reader Stream?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am going to by mine next month if all goes wel. I think the new
>>>>> stream could've been a bit better, but there are enough bennifits for
>>>>> me at least. First off, the old stream does only charch on the
>>>>> adapter. No USB charching of any kind is supported. And that is sick
>>>>> in the time we live in. So now the new stream does not just support
>>>>> charching via USB, but it also charch with a pere USB adapter and only
>>>>> have one port wich dubble as both an charching and connection port.
>>>>> The thing I like about the new interface however, is that you can now
>>>>> charch and listen wile its connected to the pc. Connect it wile the
>>>>> unit is turned on, and it will charch and stil be able to play and be
>>>>> usable. Turn it off and connect and turn back on again and the pc will
>>>>> see it as a mass storage device like the old stream did. I am also
>>>>> sick and tired of stupid Samantha and tom drink to much wisky and so
>>>>> the newer acapela voices are more than usable. They really are what I
>>>>> can use for long hours of reading. I love the fact that now on the new
>>>>> stream you can set the sleep timer in custom incriments according to
>>>>> your set time, and not only the presets they always allowed. And the
>>>>> way the clock works is also very unique. They seprit the clock menus
>>>>> from the regular player menu. That is ausom! Also the fact that all
>>>>> features are now available on the unit without the need for a softpack
>>>>> installation. And now it can do line in recording. It no longer
>>>>> support recording of 3gp but mp3 and wave only. That is just fine. As
>>>>> far as I no about the wifi situation, you have to either type in the
>>>>> network info manually, or scan for the network and add it that way.
>>>>> You might be able to add an incrippted network but I doubt it can
>>>>> sync. Although you can confirm that with humanware. Maybe someone on
>>>>> the stream list will no more there. And they might also help with the
>>>>> nls thing, I never saw any notes regarding the presents of such
>>>>> adapter like the old one. And I'm not in the US, and I didn't see the
>>>>> player yet. Hope this help a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/09/2013, Matthew Chao <mattc...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, Folks.  I'm considering buying a new Victor Reader stream.  A few
>>>>>> questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does it have an adapter for readingNLS cartridges?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you get the Reader to sync up with an encrypted wireless
>>>>>> connection?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the previous Victor Reader Stream.  What makes the newer one
>>>>>> better?  Is it worth purchasing?  What do you like or not like about
>>>>>> the newer one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any feedback you might have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matthew Chao
>>>>>>
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