Interesting. I'm not sure I've ever heard an LP record. So can't judge. But it does raze the question my mind, how could it compare to 192 KHZ 24 bit LPCM?
-----Original Message----- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 9:53 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived... And that’s why so many people say the LP records “Sound” better than CD’S. > On 14 Feb 2016, at 1:15 PM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah and even though at 192 24 bit it's said that you capture more than you > can actually hear, it still is good to do so so you have all the data points > of your source. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Dane Trethowan > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 7:20 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived... > > Ah yes, hearing frequency’s makes all the difference though it mightn’t be > obvious at first glance, its those extra frequency information that give the > music the detail, the depth and the added excitement of the expanded sound > stage, if this weren’t the case the studios wouldn’t bother making master > recordings using 192K or above sampling and so on. > > >> On 14 Feb 2016, at 9:13 AM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Actually hearing does matter when it comes to frequencies. For >> instance when on the Twit network HD audio is discussed, Leo Laporte >> always points out that he can't really appreciate what higher sample >> rate and bit death does for the music as well but as he always says >> making fun of himself he has old ears. He's 58. So he says he can't >> hear what a mid 20s dude might. Pluss since he's always been in Radio >> and has had headphones on pretty loud he says that may have busted some of >> his hearing too. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >> Dane Trethowan >> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 3:28 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived... >> >> I don't knock people for having analogue systems or anything else and >> you pretty much summed it up yourself when you talked about people >> getting what they could afford to buy and that's fair enough as I'm >> in that boat too however I do look around for the good audio and if >> it means I have to save and wait? Well so be it and that attitude has >> proven its worth beyond question. >> >> Yes an open mind is what's required but all this wasn't really the >> point I was trying to make, I was asking the question how best to >> describe the audio difference to someone between what you hear >> through a DAC and most audio equipment and the difference is certainly that >> of night and day. >> >> You don't need good hearing to distinguish the difference though >> certainly you need some decent speakers or some reasonable >> headphones, you're not going to notice all that much with your $2 >> earbuds which a lot of people are perfectly happy with. >> >> Its like MP3 files I guess, they're perfectly acceptable when you're >> listening on the bus and so on but you soon notice the difference >> when you start listening to music on CD'S and so on through >> reasonable equipment and the difference is even more pronounced when you >> turn on that DAC <smile>. >> >> >>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 7:11 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> Well, this is a good question as i am often very skeptical when hifi >>> nerds >> speak out their minds. >>> I think that others might think of them as not very open minded. >>> I am not a hifi nerd in my own perspective. >>> But people know that i am very audio intrested and that i do want >>> good >> audio quality. >>> TO be honest i don't hear some differences other might talk about >>> and >> people may or may not judge me for that or laugh at me for that but i >> don't care. >>> I think you should try to be very open minded and very very humble >>> and not >> critisize them for having their analog system for example. >>> I know you do but maybe they do not think you are humble enough. >>> We are talking about audio like an evangelist talks about Jesus. >>> Its like a religion where evrything we might say is the very word. >>> /A >>>> 13 feb. 2016 kl. 20:02 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>: >>>> >>>> I have a question which someone might be able to give me some advice on. >>>> >>>> I've been using DAC'S for nearly 3 years now and there's no doubt >>>> about >> it in my mind that they do truly enhance the music listening whether >> it be through a good pair of speakers or through headphones. >>>> >>>> Okay fine so how do you tell someone just how good a DAC actually >>>> is when >> they're stuck in "The Analogue World" for want of a better description. >>>> >>>> You tell them about your DAC and they say something like, "Yep but >>>> I've >> got this CD player or that Sound Card", fact is though that its still >> analogue and - unless you've gone out of your way to buy some top >> notch gear >> - and most people don't as they don't walk into Hi-Fi specialist >> shops >> - then they just have no idea what they're missing so how does one >> describe that in words? >>>> >>>> The only really good description I can think of is that a DAC >>>> enhances >> and expands the sound stage - in other words you get far more detail >> of the music -, the instruments are heard as you've most likely never >> heard them before if you've been listening to analogue equipment. >>>> >>>> I went looking for a DAC for someone last night and even I got a >>>> shock >> when I saw the prices they were selling for, one can buy a DAC which >> handles sampling rates from 32-96KHZ for $40 Australian, not the DAC >> for me given I have 192KHZ/24 Bit material here but its a good starting >> point. >>>> >>>> I doubt whether it would come anywhere near my Rotel when it comes >>>> to >> performance and the like but again, a good starting point for anyone >> who wants to get into the DAC game. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 14/02/2016 5:49 AM, John Gurd wrote: >>>>> Hi Mary >>>>> >>>>> I think you would notice a massive difference. I haven't heard the >>>>> Oppo PM3s but judging by the reviews they are certainly on a par >>>>> with the P7s and would sound incredible with the HA-2. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>> Sent: 13 February 2016 18:03 >>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>>> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived... >>>>> >>>>> Very definitely >>>>> >>>>>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 5:01 AM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Interesting. I wonder if it would help the sound on my Nexus 6. >>>>>> Something should! >>>>>> >>>>>> Oppo makes a pair of headphones that seem to be quite favorably >>>>>> reviewed, at least by amazon purchasers. These are the pm-3, and >>>>>> they sell for a cool 400 bucks, so not cheap. One reviewer even >>>>>> compared them favorably with the P7. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ********** >>>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the >>>>> rest of the halfwits in this world behind. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> ********** >>>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> ********** >> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest >> of the halfwits in this world behind. >> >> >> >> >> > > ********** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > > > > ********** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
