Yep fair question. You talked about those extra frequencies, an LP record - played on a reasonable turntable through a reasonable Hi-Fi setup exhibits some of those extra frequencies you would find in HD audio thus listeners often talk about the difference between CD and record.
As for me? Well if people want their LP records and so on then that’s fine but I prefer the convenience of CD or Hd Audio thanks - preferably HD audio - <smile>. > On 14 Feb 2016, at 4:04 PM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Interesting. I'm not sure I've ever heard an LP record. So can't judge. But > it does raze the question my mind, how could it compare to 192 KHZ 24 bit > LPCM? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 9:53 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived... > > And that’s why so many people say the LP records “Sound” better than CD’S. > >> On 14 Feb 2016, at 1:15 PM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Yeah and even though at 192 24 bit it's said that you capture more than you >> can actually hear, it still is good to do so so you have all the data points >> of your source. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >> Dane Trethowan >> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 7:20 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived... >> >> Ah yes, hearing frequency’s makes all the difference though it mightn’t be >> obvious at first glance, its those extra frequency information that give the >> music the detail, the depth and the added excitement of the expanded sound >> stage, if this weren’t the case the studios wouldn’t bother making master >> recordings using 192K or above sampling and so on. >> >> >>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 9:13 AM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Actually hearing does matter when it comes to frequencies. For >>> instance when on the Twit network HD audio is discussed, Leo Laporte >>> always points out that he can't really appreciate what higher sample >>> rate and bit death does for the music as well but as he always says >>> making fun of himself he has old ears. He's 58. So he says he can't >>> hear what a mid 20s dude might. Pluss since he's always been in Radio >>> and has had headphones on pretty loud he says that may have busted some of >>> his hearing too. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>> Dane Trethowan >>> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 3:28 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived... >>> >>> I don't knock people for having analogue systems or anything else and >>> you pretty much summed it up yourself when you talked about people >>> getting what they could afford to buy and that's fair enough as I'm >>> in that boat too however I do look around for the good audio and if >>> it means I have to save and wait? Well so be it and that attitude has >>> proven its worth beyond question. >>> >>> Yes an open mind is what's required but all this wasn't really the >>> point I was trying to make, I was asking the question how best to >>> describe the audio difference to someone between what you hear >>> through a DAC and most audio equipment and the difference is certainly that >>> of night and day. >>> >>> You don't need good hearing to distinguish the difference though >>> certainly you need some decent speakers or some reasonable >>> headphones, you're not going to notice all that much with your $2 >>> earbuds which a lot of people are perfectly happy with. >>> >>> Its like MP3 files I guess, they're perfectly acceptable when you're >>> listening on the bus and so on but you soon notice the difference >>> when you start listening to music on CD'S and so on through >>> reasonable equipment and the difference is even more pronounced when you >>> turn on that DAC <smile>. >>> >>> >>>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 7:11 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> Well, this is a good question as i am often very skeptical when hifi >>>> nerds >>> speak out their minds. >>>> I think that others might think of them as not very open minded. >>>> I am not a hifi nerd in my own perspective. >>>> But people know that i am very audio intrested and that i do want >>>> good >>> audio quality. >>>> TO be honest i don't hear some differences other might talk about >>>> and >>> people may or may not judge me for that or laugh at me for that but i >>> don't care. >>>> I think you should try to be very open minded and very very humble >>>> and not >>> critisize them for having their analog system for example. >>>> I know you do but maybe they do not think you are humble enough. >>>> We are talking about audio like an evangelist talks about Jesus. >>>> Its like a religion where evrything we might say is the very word. >>>> /A >>>>> 13 feb. 2016 kl. 20:02 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>: >>>>> >>>>> I have a question which someone might be able to give me some advice on. >>>>> >>>>> I've been using DAC'S for nearly 3 years now and there's no doubt >>>>> about >>> it in my mind that they do truly enhance the music listening whether >>> it be through a good pair of speakers or through headphones. >>>>> >>>>> Okay fine so how do you tell someone just how good a DAC actually >>>>> is when >>> they're stuck in "The Analogue World" for want of a better description. >>>>> >>>>> You tell them about your DAC and they say something like, "Yep but >>>>> I've >>> got this CD player or that Sound Card", fact is though that its still >>> analogue and - unless you've gone out of your way to buy some top >>> notch gear >>> - and most people don't as they don't walk into Hi-Fi specialist >>> shops >>> - then they just have no idea what they're missing so how does one >>> describe that in words? >>>>> >>>>> The only really good description I can think of is that a DAC >>>>> enhances >>> and expands the sound stage - in other words you get far more detail >>> of the music -, the instruments are heard as you've most likely never >>> heard them before if you've been listening to analogue equipment. >>>>> >>>>> I went looking for a DAC for someone last night and even I got a >>>>> shock >>> when I saw the prices they were selling for, one can buy a DAC which >>> handles sampling rates from 32-96KHZ for $40 Australian, not the DAC >>> for me given I have 192KHZ/24 Bit material here but its a good starting >>> point. >>>>> >>>>> I doubt whether it would come anywhere near my Rotel when it comes >>>>> to >>> performance and the like but again, a good starting point for anyone >>> who wants to get into the DAC game. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 14/02/2016 5:49 AM, John Gurd wrote: >>>>>> Hi Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> I think you would notice a massive difference. I haven't heard the >>>>>> Oppo PM3s but judging by the reviews they are certainly on a par >>>>>> with the P7s and would sound incredible with the HA-2. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>>> Sent: 13 February 2016 18:03 >>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>>>> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived... >>>>>> >>>>>> Very definitely >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 5:01 AM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Interesting. I wonder if it would help the sound on my Nexus 6. >>>>>>> Something should! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oppo makes a pair of headphones that seem to be quite favorably >>>>>>> reviewed, at least by amazon purchasers. These are the pm-3, and >>>>>>> they sell for a cool 400 bucks, so not cheap. One reviewer even >>>>>>> compared them favorably with the P7. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ********** >>>>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the >>>>>> rest of the halfwits in this world behind. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> ********** >>>>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ********** >>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest >>> of the halfwits in this world behind. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ********** >> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >> halfwits in this world behind. >> >> >> >> >> > > ********** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > > > > ********** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
