Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
--- On Fri, 2/12/10, Roman Haefeli <reduzie...@yahoo.de> wrote:
From: Roman Haefeli <reduzie...@yahoo.de>
Subject: Re: [PD] Alias an internal with an abstraction
To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancs...@yahoo.com>
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 10:21 AM
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 09:40 +0100,
Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 18:39 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes
wrote:
Hi Andrew,
Thanks, but that doesn't help so much with with
the max to pd conversion. If I made it an external, I would
be able to use it to
replace the internal, right?
I _think_ that this is not possible with Pd <=
current versions.
To correct myself: Since 0.42 or so there is way for
externals to
override internals.
Personally I find it was wrong to implement this 'feature'
without
providing a mechanism for a patch to protect it from using
externals
that override internals. This really can make debugging
hard and writing
portable patches impossible.
IIRC, there is even a documented case on the list, where
someone posted
a patch, that was working only on some computers because a
slight
difference between Pd's [wrap] and zexy's [wrap] and only
on *some*
machines zexy was installed and did override Pd's internal
[wrap].
Isn't this is a problem with the way libraries have loaded by
default in Pd-ext (I think there's been a long thread about that but
I haven't followed it)? I don't know much about zexy's [wrap], but this
seems a documentation issue rather than a bug-- whether it's at load
time or in the docs, at some point zexy needs to say, "Greetings,
gentleman. All your [wrap] are belong to us." Or maybe Pd needs to
say "All my [wrap] are belong to zexy."
well, that is curently almost what happend.
pd say somthing like :
warning: class 'wrap' overwritten\; old one renamed 'wrap_aliased'
but i suspect that very few peoples care about what pd say at startup....
Cyrille
If I have a bunch of objects in folder "maxwise-abs," and I tell Pd
to add that folder to the path, it is extremely likely (99%) that I want
the abstraction to take precedence over the internal. (Granted I
currently only have one object in that folder but I just started...)
-Jonathan
Roman
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