Markus. I am told that Indians has a saying, something like this "don't judge a man, without walking a day in his shoes" ;-) I have spent hour is the hide. Patience is not going to move the hide, and I am afraid it will not move the birds closer to the hide. So, as I see the situation, I need to find a solution _within_ the limitations.
This said: I _really_ hope you are right Markus. Nothing would be better. Anyway. Most of us do crop now and then, don't we? My problem is that I crop badly, when doing it on screen. I'm not only talking about this specific situation. It is a general question. I could have made that clear. So, how do I set my mind in composing mode when doing it? Please... Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -----Original Message----- > From: Markus Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11. april 2006 13:46 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: RE: Composing on screen vs. in viewfinder. > > Hi Tim > you not only posed a question you also made a strong statement that you > **have to** crop your shots even when using a 500mm lens. That's why you > got > those answers IMHO. > > Brutally said, I start thinking that your where simply not patient enough > for that kind of bird photography yet. > > greetings > Markus > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:39 PM > >>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >>Subject: RE: Composing on screen vs. in viewfinder. > >> > >> > >>List. You are not responding to my question, you are simply burping gas. > >>Helicopter is out of the question ;-) > >> > >>My question was something like this. How do I become better at cropping > at > >>computer? I tried to analyze the situation a bit, but the question was > as > >>simple as that. > >> > >> > >>Tim > >>Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > >> > >>Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > >>(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Sent: 10. april 2006 23:53 > >>> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >>> Subject: Composing on screen vs. in viewfinder. > >>> > >>> Those of you reading the list lately may have noticed that I have a > >>> project > >>> going on, that forces me to explore some new land (read learn new > >>> techniques). > >>> How a beeeep should you avoid noticing that? With my endless ranting > >>> questions ;-) > >>> > >>> I have been talking about using longer lenses, building hides and so > on. > >>> This has been great fun, and I am learning a lot about photography and > >>> birds. My longest glass that is usable is 500mm (with converter it > tends > >>> to > >>> be too soft), so I have to crop the pictures to make them interesting. > >>> > >>> This has made me realise that I am a lot better at composing in > >>viewfinder > >>> then I am with composing on computer screen. I have been thinking > about > >>> this. I have some ideas about why. > >>> > >>> First: > >>> It is that in the field I compose more on instinct. I am there, > >>and I have > >>> emotions about the motifs. My heart is involved, and I believe > >>that it is > >>> my > >>> heart that makes the composing decisions. Back at home, the motifs are > >>> more > >>> distant to me, so there I compose by brain (and as you know, that's > not > >>> much > >>> of a brain). > >>> > >>> The second reason has to do with the decisive moment: > >>> When I shot slides my mind was in "capture mode" (sorry Shel, I know > you > >>> don't like that word). When pushing the button I knew that what is in > >>> frame, > >>> stays in frame, and what is out of frame, stays out. (Everybody who > has > >>> tried masking slides in glassless frames, knows that you do > >>everything you > >>> can to avoid that activity later). > >>> > >>> Now, when shooting digitally, being forced to crop later > >>something happens > >>> with my mindset. There is no decisive moment in post processing on > >>> computer. > >>> There is always possible to go back. > >>> > >>> What I'm saying is that I think I need the decisive moment to > >>make a good > >>> composition. I also need to be emotionally connected with the motif in > >>> some > >>> way. > >>> > >>> But what do I do about this? Practise is one obvious answer. And I > will > >>> practise. But, I also have a strong belief in the power and > >>wisdom of this > >>> list. I would really surprise me if it doesn't burp up some > >>good ideas and > >>> advise. > >>> > >>> > >>> Tim > >>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > >>> > >>> Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > >>> (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> >
