Then it's not really art, it's craft.

The converse is that just because you intend to create art, doesn't mean you've succeeded. There's a lot of crap passed off as "Art" that's just crap.

On 5/18/2010 3:28 AM, Bob W wrote:
Yes, this is essentially the standard counter-argument by art theorists that
intention is a necessary part of art. It is usually framed in terms of naïve
&  primitive painters, sculptors and so on, but vernacular photography works
equally well.

Bob
Every time I hear about intent I remember this piece of
"Genius of Photography" and the NY police crime scene shots.
There was no intent of making art, but this can be considered
art nonetheless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I8KljdoZM0

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:17 PM, P. J. Alling
<webstertwenty...@gmail.com>  wrote:
On 5/12/2010 10:09 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:
On May 12, 2010, at 9:19 AM, William Robb wrote:

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Subject: Re: Chicago



Invoking an emotional response is artistry in its highest form.
When Tom and I were driving to the hotel on Thursday, a station
wagon being driven in an erratic and dangerous manner invoked a
fairly extreme emotional response from both of us.
I hadn't thought of bad driving as being an art form before this
moment.....

Well, it can be.
I think this is as good a place for my comment in this discussion. For it to actually be Art there has to be _describable_
intent on the
part of the /Artist/.  That usually, but doesn't always, requires a
certain level of craftsmanship.  So I guess intentional bad
driving is
Art, while unintentional bad driving isn't.  Extrapolate to
the rest
of the universe at your peril.


William Robb

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