I've got plenty more failed attempts I could post to help reset
expectations back down to manageable levels, Bill. :-)

I don't disagree with you that the way she's got her shoulders sloped
and the angle of view together do not make for the best overall shape
for her. It's hard to unsee that now.

Maybe foreshortening was the wrong word for it. All I know is the
closest objects appear the largest which makes shooting down on people
an iffy proposition if one is trying to avoid distortions. But it's
also an angle that gets you a unique perspective and has some
advantages like bringing the floor into play as a background. Jane
Bown was fond of doing portraits by getting her sitter on the floor
then standing on a chair to shoot down on them. I see lots of examples
of that in her Faces book. They look a bit odd, but worked well enough
for the newspapers she worked for.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 4:55 PM Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 9/11/2020 2:45 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 4:03 PM Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 9/9/2020 5:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> >>> Broke my COVID-19 exile two weeks ago today for my first studio shoot
> >>> since February, with this result ... (100% SFW) ...
> >>>
> >>> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I0000eIqHiAEP9xQ
> >>>
> >>> Promptly gone back into the COVID-cave for the (un)foreseeable future.
> >>> Too much anxiety all around, and besides: wearing a mask while
> >>> shooting causes the viewfinder to fog up annoyingly often. Also fogs
> >>> my reading glasses while trying to review shots on the tethering
> >>> notebook. And I had to keep considering if I was too close to the
> >>> model even though I chose a short tele for distancing.
> >>>
> >>> Working with the vintage 6x7 105mm 2.4 was a dream. Lovely lens.
> >>>
> >>> 645Z, SMC Takumar 67 105mm f:2.4 at f:2.4, 1/200th sec, ISO 1600; 
> >>> handheld.
> >>>
> >>> Lights were the strobe's modeling lamps, diffusers and a big silver
> >>> reflector. Also ambient room light was lighting the background.
> >>>
> >>> Enjoy!
> >>>
> >>
> >> That is almost quite charming. Her right shoulder and arm could have
> >> been better placed though. The pose gives her a somewhat disassembled
> >> and put back together incorrectly look.
> >> I did check her MM portfolio as well as her personal portfolio to ensure
> >> she wasn't built like Quasimodo.
> >> She most definitely isn't.
> >
> > Most definitely not; I can attest to that. :-)  Yeah, it's tricky
> > shooting down on a subject from a rickety apple box while manually
> > focusing and keeping mask-induced fog out of the viewfinder.
> > Definitely some foreshortening distortion resulted from that angle.
> >
> > Thanks for looking, Bill!
> >
>
> I'm not sure if it's forshortening, especially with the 105 on the 6x7.
> That's not an especially long lens.
> She definitely has her right shoulder lifted up, which has caused her to
> look more than a little hunchbacked, she also has her right elbow broken
> inwards. It gives her entire right side a rather misshaped appearance.
> This is not to say I would have done better. I wouldn't have.
> This is one of those situations, Bruce, where the better you do, the
> more we expect.
>  From you, we expect perfection based on your past performance. :)
>
> bill
>
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