I like cream with my bokeh. I've been using that 67 105mm f:2.4 with my 645Z and the results are wonderful. It makes a terrific portrait short tele on the 645 format.
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 5:25 PM Mark C <pdml-m...@charter.net> wrote: > > Lens design has a lot to do with how bokeh is rendered. I've been > shooting film almost exclusively this year, a lot with a Pentax 6x7 and > 105mm f2.4. That lens seems to have been designed to produce the most > beautiful creamy bokeh possible. I also use a Ricoh Diacord TLR, a 6x6 > TLR with a f3.5 Tessar design lens. The results are incredibly sharp > but you really can't get a smooth bokeh. Forms clump together and > highlights in particular render as circles with almost crisp > circumferences. Each lens has its own purpose. The Pentax lens lets you > easily isolate a subject against a soft background, giving the nice 3d > look. But the Diacord is almost magical in creating the appearance of > infinite depth of field, even when only stopped down to f8 or even f5.6. > > I think one issue is that there is no real agreement about what makes > for a "good" bokeh. The lens in the Diacord seems to have pretty typical > Tessar type characteristics, including the "clumpy" bokeh. But a lot of > folks seem to like that - especially in the rendering of specular > highlights. Others look for a creamy bokeh with everything running > together. > > Mark > > On 9/27/2020 1:54 PM, Toine wrote: > > Yes I agree thats the main effect. However this guy even includes lead in > > glass as a pop factor. The rendering of bokeh also adds to the effect. > > Zooms have a busy bokeh. > > > > https://photographylife.com/the-death-of-beautiful-rendition-and-3d-pop-on-modern-lenses > > > > I can hardly see the difference in his before after shot with the slider > > > > On Sun, 27 Sep 2020, 18:46 Paul Stenquist, <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > >> What is seen as 3D “pop” is just limited depth of field. And because > >> primes generally have a larger app wide open than zooms, they give you more > >> control over DOF. > >> > >> Paul > >> > >>> On Sep 27, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Daniel J. Matyola <danmaty...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> That certainly does "pop"! > >>> > >>> Dan Matyola > >>> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery > >>> <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 2:54 PM Toine <to...@repiuk.nl> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I read a lot about primes vs zooms and old designs of primes. That > >>>> should result in something like 3D pop. Never noticed it until today: > >>>> > >>>> > >> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=005-899-20200926-imgp3095-edit > >>>> I find myself lugging the DA*300 around on a daily basis. Maybe because > >> it > >>>> pops. > >>>> > >>>> Do I need new glasses? > >>>> > >>>> Toine > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>> PDML@pdml.net > >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >>>> follow the directions. > >>>> > >>> -- > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> PDML@pdml.net > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >> follow the directions. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >> follow the directions. > >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
