Yeah, I would say. There's problems with unconstitutional conditions. Btw, 
are you sure the note must be from a clergy member? That's clearly 
unconstitutional. Suppose you object to the pledge cause you are an atheist? 
Btw, I went to primary school in VA, it may explain why I am so strange. 
--jks


>Mat,
>       Liable to be suspended from school.
>       The original bill was even stricter, but was
>cut back in face of its obvious unconstitutionality
>in the face of the 1943 Supreme Court ruling on
>this matter.  A lot of people think the bill that has
>just passed is also unconstitutional.  BTW, this
>is a followup on last year's law mandating a
>required morning "moment of silence" in public
>schools.  There have been a lot of protests with
>students sitting in the halls and getting into various
>sorts of trouble.
>Barkley Rosser
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Forstater, Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:38 PM
>Subject: [PEN-L:7666] RE: Re: Re: blowing off steam
>
>
> >so if you refuse to say the pledge (as I did when I was in 4th grade) are
>you
> >breaking the law and liable to be arrested?
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: J. Barkley Rosser, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:00 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [PEN-L:7659] Re: Re: blowing off steam
> >
> >
> >     Actually the Virginia legislature, now fully dominated
> >by the Repugs who are seriously beholden to the
> >Christian Right are going off the deep end.  The latest?
> >They have just passed a 24-hour waiting period on
> >abortions and also a law requiring students in high
> >schools to stand and recite the Pledge of Allegiance
> >every morning.  They can only get out with a note from
> >a clergyperson testifying to their religious or philosophical
> >objections.
> >      The governor, recently appointed as National
> >Chair of the Repugs, will sign both of these eagerly.
> >Barkley Rosser
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Margaret Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Date: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 9:12 PM
> >Subject: [PEN-L:7629] Re: blowing off steam
> >
> >
> >>Mike reminded me of how floored I was when I heard about the Virginia
> >>legislature passing laws about where to sleep in the house you own...  
>To
> >>make matters even more hypocritical, Virginia is a right to work state 
>--
> >>because unions interfere in the market place.  So it's o.k. to stamp out
> >>living wages, but we can't have people falling asleep in front of the TV
>in
> >>the living room.  To add to this, right now Virginia and Maryland are
> >>cooperating on rebuilding a bridge which is the main passage between the
> >>states and DC where most white Virginians work.  Bushites are talking
>about
> >>stopping the contracting on the bridge because Virginia had to agree to
> >>union rules which Maryland upholds.  So the bushites are going to try 
>and
> >>force Maryland to accept non-union labor in the bridge construction.  My
> >>question is, what happened to state's rights?  Why are Virginia's states
> >>rights to be a right to work state better than Maryland's states rights 
>to
> >>promote unionism?  Well, that's a rhetorical question.  maggie coleman
> >>
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >>> I just glanced at a journal of political economy article in condemning
> >>> mandates.  Mandates are bad, except you want to force schools to get
> >>> standardized tests.  Local control is good, except when inconveniences
> >>> corporations.  Then it has to be overruled.  Individuals know what is
> >>> best, but then Virginia legislates that people must sleep in their
> >>> bedrooms.  How do get away with such hypocrisy?  And who figures out 
>the
> >>> names of their political campaigns -- paycheck protection, death 
>taxes,
> >>> and the like?
> >>>  --
> >>> Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University 
>Chico,
> >>> CA 95929
> >>>
> >>> Tel. 530-898-5321
> >>> E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

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