----- Original Message ----- From: "andie nachgeborenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Even some socialists see "socialism" as merely referring to state ownership of the means of production, not caring who or what owns the state. > > There's a big diff between interference so called and ownership, even if the ownership is merely public and not democratic. > > jks =================== Aren't governments unownable by definition? Sure some factions/classes may think the government their personal property, but don't we deride that as delusional? Non-interference in "the market" is a legal impossibility, no? Ian