Re: Sowell and the big lie.

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In a message dated 7/2/2004 5:22:00 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Traditional justice, at least in the American tradition, involves treating people the same, holding them to the same standards and having them play by the same rules. Cosmic justice tries to make their prospects equal. One example: this brouhaha about people in the third world making clothing and running shoes -- Kathie Lee and all that. What's being said is: Isn't it awful that these people have to work for such little rewards, while those back here who are selling the shoes are making such fabulous amounts of money? And that's certainly true.   Comment   This entire discussion concerning Mr. Sowell has an unreal quality that originates in his biases and dishonest assessment with the actual life of American society. Traditional justice in America have never involved treating everyone the same because America was more than less a Southern country in its genesis and this involved slavery and before that the genocidal extermination of the Indian.   Slavery distorted everything that America - since 1776, professed it believed in. "Traditional Justice" dates from when and what is the empirical data concerning incarceration rates for the same crimes amongst different population groups?   There is a point at which intellectual discourse becomes meaningless if one is not willing to confront the truth of our history and current reality.   Enough of Mr. Sowell . . . and his obvious lies. Traditional American justice has never been treating everyone the same . . . and this includes in the ideological realm.   Enough of this nonsense concerning Mr. Sowell. I would of course challenge him to debate amongst working class citizens and the lowest economic stratum of society and union members and give him the spanking he deserves . . . especially on issues like gun control and education.   On affirmative action he would be run out of the podium and forced to understand the real meaning of traditional American justice. The poor would most certainly string him up and I would not object.     Melvin P.