Todd, nothing you said disagrees with what I said, and I referenced that same Wikipedia article. (Though perhaps I could have been more accurate in saying a cardinal is characterized by an integer rather than saying it is an integer with a particular interpretation.) In particular, the article is explicit that there is no limit to how many cardinal numbers there are. So saying cardinal number is equivalent to a fixed size 32-bit integer is wrong, which is my point. (Also, negative quantities/counts are a common concept, but I can accept that the formal definition of cardinal excludes them.) -- Darren Duncan

On 2020-01-03 12:03 a.m., Todd Chester via perl6-users wrote:


On 2020-01-02 22:19, Darren Duncan wrote:
On 2020-01-02 10:01 a.m., ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote:
How do I do a 32 bit unsigned integer (cardinal)?  I
have a situation where I need to be able to have the
first bit be a one and not have Raku think it is
a negative number.

Why do you use the term "cardinal" to refer to a 32 bit unsigned integer?

The term "cardinal" in practice is just an integer/number of any magnitude with the added semantics of representing a quantity/count of something in contrast to say an ordinal position or name of something.

Cardinals can't be negative.  Think of them as counting numbers


The term definitely does not represent a fixed-size number and it can also be negative.

You are confusing a cardinal with an integer.  An easy mistake
to make

-- Darren Duncan

Hi Darren,

Cardinal number
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_number

      "Cardinal numbers (or cardinals) are numbers that say how
      many of something there are, for example: one, two,
      three, four, five, six. They are sometimes called
      counting numbers. "


Cardinal Numbers
https://www.mathsisfun.com/numbers/cardinal-ordinal-nominal.html

     "A Cardinal Number says how many of something there are,
     such as one, two, three, four, five.

     A Cardinal Number answers the question 'How Many?'"


Modula-2 Basic Data Types
https://www.modula2.org/sb/env/index75.htm

     CARDINAL   16-bit compiler:   2 bytes  0 to 65535
                32-bit compiler:   4 bytes  0 to 4,294,967,295

I was pretty good at Modula2 back in the day,

:-)

-T

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