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“Most insecticides fail because the spiders do not actually come in contact 
with them.“
Actually I think the information about spiders has been repeated but is not 
really true.  Most PMPs and others have the idea that spiders must be walking 
on their claws akin to ballerinas dancing (walking on tiptoes) and this is not 
so.  There are those spiders that crawl on 3 claws and those that crawl on 2 
claws, with many of the latter also having tarsal pads or claw tufts.  Also 
people believe that (adult, specifically) bed bugs cannot climb smooth, 
vertical surfaces because there are no tarsal pads compared to American roaches 
that have such pads and are known to walk on many surfaces including smooth, 
vertical ones.  This is incorrect, too, since pest bed bugs have special leg 
adaptations to do so.  A reason might be that the spiders do not stay for a 
long period of time on a treated surface or the material really doesn’t have a 
long residual life or that the applications aren’t really in areas where the 
spiders stay.  Certain insecticides don’t work well against spiders although 
direct hit usually works.  Dusts will adhere better on their bodies as compared 
to liquid preparations.
There must be space by which prey items and spiders gain access into the 
structure.  Recluse spiders are also long lived (living a few years, not annual 
species) and the populations may have built up over time and are not from very 
recent introductions.  The population may be centered in the lower levels or 
basement area and crawl around to the upper levels. I’ve seen this in a NYC 
apartment building.
We have a spider exhibit running through Dec. 2. 
http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/current-exhibitions/spiders-alive

Louis N. Sorkin, B.C.E.
Entomologist, Arachnologist
Division of Invertebrate Zoology
American Museum of Natural History
Central Park West at 79th Street
New York, New York 10024-5192
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From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of Forrest 
St. Aubin
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:01 AM
To: pestlist@museumpests.net
Subject: Re: [pestlist] Brown Recluse

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Let's start with two questions: 1.) What do they appear to be feeding on?; 2.) 
How are the spiders and prey getting inside?  Most insecticides fail because 
the spiders do not actually come in contact with them.  Fogging can be very 
effective, but fogging can be highly deleterious to objects and artifacts 
within the museum.  The answer to the problem is to reduce or eliminate access 
for both spiders and prey by tightening the building up as much as possible.

Forrest E. St. Aubin, BCE
Liaison, ESA/NPMA
Chair, ESA-ACE Oversight Committee
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"The trouble with the world is not that people know too little, but that they 
know so many things that ain't so." - Mark Twain


-----Original Message-----
From: "John Timothy" [timot...@bacone.edu]
Date: 10/10/2012 10:28 AM
To: pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net>
Subject: [pestlist] Brown Recluse

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I have been monitering our museum using sticky traps spread every 10 feet 
throughout. A significant number of brown recluse spiders were caught, seventy 
in a two month period of time. Fishing for suggestions on other ways to control 
them besides sticky traps. I gather insecticides are largely ineffective.

--
John Timothy
Ataloa Lodge Museum<http://ataloa.bacone.edu/>
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