Am 15.04.2011 um 22:12 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse:

> Hi guys
> 
> we discuss with sven about strategies to get a better infrastructure and the 
> HTTP level.
> Sven would like to have feedback on Zinc before pushing it in Pharo :)
> So can you let us know. What we could do it to have it in a preview in 1.3
> then in 1.4 remove HTTPClient (or friend).

This is really good. To me (meaning  IMHO) it is one of the most missing 
functionalities in pharo. Zinc is really great and so much better than 
_anything_ in pharo that pretends to do HTTP. I would like to see it that we 
don't talk about HTTP but about proper MIME based communication. I think the 
very core that is in there is the structured and flexible mime media handling 
and communication. And this is not only true for HTTP but also for email.
I would like to see that Zinc creeping into the image bringing the mime stuff 
along. Than the mime stuff should break loose of the Zinc components and should 
replace the mime handling that is in the image. Than we have it for http and 
for mail sending and for every other transport protocol you can imagine.
And now that Paul ported zinc to gemstone you can develop good http handlers 
that are easily ported to gemstone. What a wonderful world!
And seaside? Well, if the current http adaptors are much faster than zinc than 
there should be shortcut path through zinc that allows fast handling of the 
minimal stuff seaside needs. The same problem goes for the WARequest stuff. 
Using zinc you can get access to the mime parts. Now WARequest is a strange 
request object that contains a dictionary for request parameters and a raw 
message body. If only compatibility is important than a zinc to old WARequest 
handling is needed. But I would like to see the mime based handling to be the 
"normal" way of doing and not vice versa. But I can see that it must be a 
special treatment as seaside is ported to so many platforms that don't have 
zinc. Probably one reasone more to extract the mime stuff. It might be a 
promininent candidate other platforms adopt. 

my two cents,

Norbert


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