On 1/10/12, Guido Stepken <gstep...@googlemail.com> wrote: > While deciders still reflect upon what programming language and framework > to use, thinking about Java, .NET ... , Google and Apple have set new > standards by pushing LLVM, V8, Webkit, node.js with a tremendous amount of > money to perfection. > > Look at this example: > > http://monocle.inventivelabs.com.au/books/dubliners
Works in Google chrome version 16 I cannot turn the pages in FF9.0.1, nor in Opera 11.60. > > An epub reader object, good example for "ambient oriended programming". The > reader behaves like an native app, independent on architecture, processor > and os, touch, nontouch. Simply runs in every browser. And browser has > javascript language bindings to all hardware, GPS, barometer, wifi, GSM, > touch interface, mouse, cam .... if available. > > Porting PHARO onto Amber makes sense for me. Nothing else. COGVM, browser > plugin, touch interface, portability discussion finished! IMHO the only > chance for Smalltalk to come to new life. Yes, every computer including tablet computer and many mobile phones come with a virtual machine pre-installed. This VM interprets JavaScript. JavaScript is the VM of the web. http://www.dynamic-languages-symposium.org/dls-10/program/media/AllenWirfsBrock_2010_SmalltalkVirtualMachinesToJavaScriptEnginesPerspectivesOnMainstreamingDynamicLanguages_Dls.pdf slide 30 Or as Dan Ingalls puts it "JavaScript is _the_ assembly language of the internet". http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-September/131250.html Having an environment to do Smalltalk programming on this VM makes sense. JavaScript is actually a simple and clean language if you just look at the core language (no DOM, no browser objects). There are objects (like dictionaries in Smalltalk) and arrays which are specialized objects. And there are functions which are objects as well (including closures). Primitives values (Number, String, Boolean) behave as objects as well (read-only properties as changing the state does not make sense). Alan Wirfs-Brock is co-editor of the ECMAScript 5.1 specification http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/ECMA-262%20edition%205.1,%20June%202011.pdf In ECMAscript 5 (for example as implemented in IE9) a lot of Smalltalk constructs may be used 1:1. http://www.dynamic-languages-symposium.org/dls-10/program/media/AllenWirfsBrock_2010_SmalltalkVirtualMachinesToJavaScriptEnginesPerspectivesOnMainstreamingDynamicLanguages_Dls.pdf However as the example of the book reader shows there are problems with different implementations not supporting all the APIs. This as well applies to Amber where a lot more tests are needed. Regards Hannes Hirzel > regards, Guido Stepken > Am 10.01.2012 09:29 schrieb "Friedrich Dominicus" < > fr...@q-software-solutions.de>: > >> Dennis Schetinin <chae...@gmail.com> writes: >> >> > Yes, we do: the (outer) world is getting worse and worse :) >> No not really. See there is Objective-C in fifth place. That is not too >> bad. JavaScript is up also and that is very much a Smalltalk in >> disguise. YES. I'd just would appreciate if Smalltalk was at least among the >> first 10. At least that would be deserved. Anyway if you see Smalltalk >> as "idea" supplier for Object-oriented languages, one can see that OO >> really rules. An argument to learn Smalltalk as a first language? Down to Transact-SQL all the languages offer more or less >> support for OO-programming. Some even claim to be object-oriented ;-) >> >> There is not one language among the first 15 which does not offer >> anything about OO. See even Visual Basic uses it. >> >> Well it's not that this may all too much, but it's still obvious. OO is >> currently the "way to go". >> >> I for my part would appreciate some more support for functional >> languages. But to some extend all of them at least support it >> partially. What is astonishing is the rank of R. That I think can be >> seen as "unexpected". >> >> >> -- >> Q-Software Solutions GmbH; Sitz: Bruchsal; Registergericht: Mannheim >> Registriernummer: HRB232138; Geschaeftsfuehrer: Friedrich Dominicus >> >> >
