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Ron L From: SN Medved via Phono-L [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 10:37 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Cc: SN Medved Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2 <http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/forum.talkingmachine.info?p=eyJ zIjoia2ZoQUtRZ3RQVjg2VGtvTzhaYWZCSDJIYThJIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTc xMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvZm9ydW0udGFsa2luZ21hY2hpbmUuaW5 mb1xcXC92aWV3dG9waWMucGhwP2Y9MiZ0PTE3OTIyJnNpZD05OWYyMjgyNjNmMjE5NDEzMjRkODE wY2U1MDhlMGVhNCZzdGFydD01MFwiLFwiaWRcIjpcImViYzc0MmI0NjY1ODRjNjQ5ZjA5ZDIyMzQ 1NzM2NjMxXCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiYzJlODJkMDg1Y2ZmM2RjZDIyZjRjZjliODFmOTQwMjZ iZWE2MGIwM1wiXX0ifQ> &t=17922&sid=99f228263f21941324d810ce508e0ea4&start=50 _____ From: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders To: phono-l@oldcrank.org CC: steve_nor...@msn.com Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 02:31:10 +0000 Many of the points in the needle bars like the Cheney ones are sapphires and not diamonds. So far I have not seen a point mounted in a shank that was not worn or broken. 95% of the original Edison diamonds I have examined are broken, worn, or both. This is a good article, it shows worn and broken diamonds and explains well. I have found that the Columbia ball stylus mounted in a bar will play the Pathe records. I ordered 5 diamonds made for use in a shank, but unfortunately they cut them too short. If there is interest I could have more made. Steve Medved _____ From: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 03:23:34 +0000 Get in touch with George Vollema, Great Lakes Antique Phonographs. He's great to do business with and has a huge stock of parts. Having said that, if George can't help, I once made a Pathe stylus out of a bit of Dental technology, a "Pindex Pin" (ask your local dentist). I drilled a very small hole in the end and glued in a sapphire cylinder stylus such as used on Columbia machines. It was ball shaped. And I'll bet Steve Medved could make something with one of the new Edison DD styli he is having made here in the states. George would be the easier way to go first though. Ron L From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 10:39 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders Thanks, Ron. Any idea where I might find one? I'd like to pick up a Pathe ball stylus, too -- I've never has any luck finding either on ebay. Ric -------- Original message -------- From: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Date: 10/16/2015 10:18 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'Antique Phonograph List' <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders You would need an Edison style diamond which Sonora probably sold. Ron L From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:55 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders One more question: Like most wooden-arm Sonoras, this one comes with two reproducers, one for lateral-cut records, the other, it says, for vertical-cut and diamond discs. Could these really play diamond discs? If so, what kind of stylus would you need, and where would you get one? _____ From: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 23:47:23 +0000 I posted this query last month about restoring the record filing system in a Sonora Elite phonograph. Since then, I have learned that Sonora actually called it an "envelope filing system," and that I have everything I need, EXCEPT for some sort of little metal brackets (a pair, to be precise) that secure the rods to the outside of the wooden framework for the filing system. If you click on this link, scroll down to the third picture and look closely, you can sort of see what I'm talking about: http://www.justanswer.com/antiques/5nb93-glenda-i-question-sonora-phonograph -recently.html#re.v/149/ <http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.justanswer.com?p=eyJzIjoiNk N6a19MRXhUdURtZGtES0pOM2N1OElOb21RIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcIn ZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3Lmp1c3RhbnN3ZXIuY29tXFxcL2FudGlxdW VzXFxcLzVuYjkzLWdsZW5kYS1pLXF1ZXN0aW9uLXNvbm9yYS1waG9ub2dyYXBoLXJlY2VudGx5Lm h0bWwjcmUudlxcXC8xNDlcXFwvXCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiNTk0Y2FkMDVkYTJmNDkxN2FiZjVmMmIwMW IwYTg5NDVcIixcInVybF9pZHNcIjpbXCI2YjQ4YzUzMjBkNGE3OWJiYmVjYTFlZWJhZDk0ODY4Y2 U0ZmIyZGY2XCJdfSJ9> Does anyone happen to have a pair of these they'd be willing to sell me, or at the very least a clearer photo of them? I'd appreciate any help. Thanks again, Ric uws...@gmail.com _____ From: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Sonora bombe and record folders To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 18:02:54 +0000 I am in the process of restoring a nice Sonora phonograph in a mahogany bombe cabinet; I found it years ago at an estate sale, and it's taken me a while to get around to it. Like many Sonoras, the paper record folders down below had been removed, presumably because they had disintegrated, as they typically do. Miraculously, some years later I found another Sonora -- the same model -- with a trashed cabinet (no grille, broken legs, etc.) but a full set of record folders in excellent condition. Unfortunately, so much time has passed that I can no longer remember how to install the folders in the cabinet. I found the attached photo online of the identical phonograph, and it seems like the rods (there are four of them, each half the width of the wooden bracket with the vertical slats) might slide into some holes in the bottom of the bracket, but I can't tell for sure. Has anybody dealt with this before? If so, could you possibly offer me some instructions? Also, I'm not sure which model this is; it came with a booklet identifying it as an Elite, but all the photos online of Sonora Elites show a different, smaller model. (The one with what looks like a capital "H" in the center of the grille.) I have checked the paper label on the underside of the drawer, and it doesn't say -- it's just a list of patents. Finally, if by some chance anyone out there has a parts machine, please let me know. Thanks! Image removed by sender. Image removed by sender. Image removed by sender. Image removed by sender. Image removed by sender. Image removed by sender. 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