On Aug 28, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Milind A Bhandarkar wrote:

+1 on the direction.

A few questions:

1. With Pig marching towards becoming a TLP at Apache, can Piggybank become a full-fledged subproject (with it's own releases and all) ? 2. Or since the ultimate goal is to have a common UDF repository for both Pig and Hive, t would make sense to make it into an incubator project, with a name that does not indicate pig dependency?

I agree with Dmitriy that this is not necessarily the ultimate goal.

3. I see parallels between Howl and proposed Piggybank, since they aspire to become common components in both Hive and Pig distributions. What are long term plans for Howl as far as hosting is concerned ?

The stated plan with Howl has been to put it in the Incubator.

Alan.


- Milind

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From: Dmitriy Ryaboy [dvrya...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 2:13 PM
To: pig-user@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: Request for Comments: Piggybank future

Hi folks, at the last Pig contributor meeting, the piggybank question was
discussed -- namely, how to make it more easy to contribute to.
(by the way, the contributor meetings are generally open to all comers -- sign up for the pig-dev list if you are interested in that type of thing).

Here's a section of the notes I sent to Pig-dev that documents the results of the piggybank discussion. How do you, as users, feel about this plan?

Piggybank.
Kevin Weil led a discussion of the piggybank. There are a few problems with it -- it's released on the Pig schedule, and has quite a few barriers to
submission that are, anecdotally at least, preventing people from
contributing. Several options were discussed, with the group finally
settling on starting a community-curated GitHub project for piggybank. It will have a number of committers from different companies, and will aim to make it easy for folks to contribute (all contribs will still have to have tests, and be Apache 2.0-licensed). More details will be forthcoming as we figure them out. Initially this project will be seeded with the current Piggybank functions some time after 0.8 is branched. The initial list of committers Kevin Weil (Twitter), Dmitriy Ryaboy (Twitter), Carl Steinbach (Cloudera), and Russel Jurney (LinkedIn). Yahoo will also nominate someone. Please send us any thoughts you might have on this subject. It was suggested that a lot of common code might be shared with Hive UDFs, which have the same problems as Piggybank does, and that perhaps the project can be another collaboration point between the projects. Not clear how that would work,
Carl will talk to other Hive people.

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