On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 04:32:02PM +0200, Sebastian Rother wrote:
> > Look, I'm going to side with Theo on that one.
> >
> > There are lots of *big* issues to fix each release. It doesn't look like
> > it from outside, but we have show-stoppers.
> >
> > Each release, we refine the process.
> >
> > This release, we cut down on the number of non-critical commits right up
> > to the lock.
> >
> > So that the release goes smoother.
> > So that things go faster.
> > You can help by testing the snapshots, telling what does not work, etc.
> >
> > As soon as the release is past, it will be `business as usual', and of
> > course, a lot of `minor' patches are going to happen.
> 
> > Seriously, the release work is gigantic. There are choices to be made.
> > If you don't like the current choices, tough.
> 
> Well maybe the issue is that, except of the developers, nobody knows how
> you do make a release or what a gigantic work it is?

17 arches, 4000 ports yeah piece of cake.

> 
> I wont piss off anybody, it will be a gigantic task and I can imagine it

Too late; you as usual took a giant dump on the development process
without any knowledge of what is happening behind the scenes.

> (hopefully) because of some projects as well but except to tell anybody
> "you can't have both" a "we do not have the manpower to do this" would be
> more truthly? It's no shame to admit there not enough res. available to do
> things.

You can't have it both ways.  Stabilizing an OS isn't a piece of cake.

> 
> Anyway I wont argue and I thank you very much for any effort! (and I
> seriously mean it). :)

Maybe you should not say those things then.

> 
> And this is offtopic but: In case pcc gets "productiv" do you think this
> may would speed things up. Except manpower what else is the bottleneck
> currently (related to the ports)?
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> Sebastian
> 

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