I'm about to apply to speak at SemWeb.pro, a conference that takes place in Paris in autumn.

It unfortunately mostly is in French, but it's mostly people from the industry and the government who speak. I remember seeing only a handful of researchers... and last year Phil Archer did the keynote (in English)!

http://semweb.pro/

Colin

On 07/07/2016 07:51 PM, Ruben Verborgh wrote:
Hi Juan,

Seems like we mostly agree—short remarks below.

One thing is science. Another is engineering.
Perhaps we need Semantic Web Engineering conferences then as well!

If we don't know the right evaluation metrics (I agree with you that we don't), 
then that is the current challenge we, as a semantic web scientific community, 
have to tackle.
Indeed, but I've found the scientific community to be not so open to new 
evaluation metrics either. There is insufficient agreement on (and too limited 
knowledge of) the right scientific methodology to tackle such novel problems.

It shouldn't discourage you... on the contrary, it should encourage you to 
identify novel ways to evaluate what you are doing and convince the community 
why it is important.
The trouble is you don't have to convince the entire community (with whom you 
can have an open dialog), but a tiny set of anonymous reviewers (for whom the 
known paths are often easier to judge).
My remark was precisely that convincing is hard once you move away from the 
known paths.

So the scientific community, which is a large part of the total Semantic Web 
community, might in that sense be hampering real novelty—from science and 
engineering alike, whichever might be the difference.

Best,

Ruben


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