On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Ben Bangert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 2008, at 9:31 AM, zunzun wrote:
>
>> Comparison before starting a project, used to decide which framework
>> to use.
>> Django: according to http://groups.google.com/group/django-users/about
>> Members 12,016
>> Group Activity is High
>> Pylons: according to http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/about
>> Members: 1,748
>> Group Activity is Low
>
> Really? That's how you decide? Then I believe you *must* choose PHP. It
> completely dwarfs Django and Python altogether, its the only choice really
> if you want to determine framework based on user-base (popularity). :)
>
>> Also, Django just made a major release.  The last (non-security fix)
>> Pylons release is over a year old.  Guido van Rossum has blessed
>> Django here:
>> http://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2006/aug/07/guidointerview/
>
> Before that release, they hadn't made a release in almost 2 years, and
> actually told everyone to run production websites on the development
> branch... Pylons 0.9.7 RC4 came out about 2 weeks ago. Guido is not a
> veteran web developer, nor does he actually use any of Django beyond Django
> templates, his apps have been generally built with pure WSGI and Django
> templates, the recent port of his Mondrian to a Django app was prolly his
> first actual Django project.
>
>> Seems like I should use Django?  Or should it be Pylons instead?  Is a
>> long-planned major release immediately forthcoming?
>
> What kind of app/site are you building? What tools matter to you? Do you
> think you'll need to scale heavily? Are you talking to a legacy database?
> etc.
>
> Those questions are the ones you should be asking yourself, then seeing
> which framework has the tools you need to accomplish your task. Otherwise,
> merely posting some mail list numbers and that Guido likes Django seems to
> be awfully trollish as it doesn't seem to be a serious attempt to evaluate
> the frameworks benefits for the task you're actually trying to complete.
>
> I'd highly suggest searching the mail list for some previous threads on the
> subject, as this doesn't really need rehashing again.
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Apylons+django+pylons
>
> Cheers,
> Ben

Totally agreed with Ben, you may also want to learn a similar post
just a couple of days old on the TG list with another set of bad
comparison and misinterpretations
http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears/browse_thread/thread/a63ad43936c8f821

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