i ended up using wtforms. definitely check it out (http://
wtforms.simplecodes.com/) if you want validation, widgets & control
over layout, etc

On Jan 29, 7:21 pm, BruceC <bruce.co...@hp.com> wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for contributing to this discussion. I guess I
> should summarize my findings, for the sake of anyone attempting to
> resolve the same issue:
>
> 1. pyramid_simpleform does what it says - it is simple to use & allows
> users to manually render their forms. FormEncode has resources behind
> it, so it is a safe choice for less-complex apps.
>
> 2. Colander/Deform is also a great combination, with good widget
> libraries, good documentation & lots of power, though is more complex
> than pyramid_simpleform. It's auto form rendering is great for those
> who want a simple form-rendering method. It only real drawback that I
> can see is the difficulty in manually laying out your form widgets
> into your html, if that is a requirement you have.
>
> 3. ToscaWidgets2 (ie tw2.core - I haven't looked into the ealier
> versions of TW - eg 0.9.x) is also a great framework, though again, it
> is more complex than pyramid_simpleform. It does have an excellent
> assortment of widgets (particularly in the area of graphs & charts),
> and the ability to manually render your form if you need this ability
> (see Ralph's earlier post), though it can also auto-render your form
> if you'd prefer. Probably the biggest drawback about TW2 for Pyramid
> users is the lack of how-to/code-example articles about. Given I am
> migrating an old TW1-based Pylons app to Pyramid, TW2 looks like the
> best option for me in this case. In general though, Pyramid users
> would probably benefit if there was a "pyramid_tw2" scaffold to allow
> users to easily add the framework to their Pyramid project...
>
> Cheers,
>
> BruceC
>
> On Jan 19, 2:32 am, Chris Lambacher <ch...@kateandchris.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Micheal (radeo) and I were talking on IRC. pyramid_simpleform will not
> > continue to support Colander in the future. The Colander support is half
> > baked and done because FormEncode was "unmaintained". FormEncode's
> > maintainership is no longer in question [1] so pyramid_simpleform can
> > continue to be a integration point for people who want to use FormEncode
> > with Pyramid.
>
> > As one of the maintainers of FormEncode and a user of pyramid_simpleform, I
> > have committed to doing bug fixes and ongoing maintenance of
> > pyramid_simpleform. I do have some planned changes but have not had a
> > chance to get to them. I'll likely try to figure out some time during
> > sprints at PyCon (along with working on FormEncode)
>
> > 1:http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=CAO69NdkfE-E...
>
> > -Chris
>
> > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Chris McDonough <chr...@plope.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 23:06 -0800, BruceC wrote:
> > > > Hi all, it would appear the current version of pyramid_simpleform
> > > > would be 0.6.1, which relies on Formencode, however I have spotted a
> > > > version 0.7 on bitbucket that Dan Jacob put together that also allows
> > > > a user to generate form schemas in Pyramid using Colander, which would
> > > > be my preference.
>
> > > > Does anyone know if pyramid_simpleform 0.7 is stable for use with
> > > > Pyramid (& Colander)?
>
> > > It's not.  I think it may be an evolutionary dead end at this point,
> > > unless someone picks it up and runs with it.
>
> > > - C
>
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