On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 8:59 AM Victor Stinner <vstin...@python.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 5:48 PM Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote:
> > So you're proposing to completely get rid of those three?
>
> I don't propose to remove them, but only call them if Python is built
> in debug mode. Or remove them from the release build, unless
> ./configure --with-assertions is used.
>
>
> > And you're sure that each and every single call to any of those is
> better off being an assert()?
>
> For many years, many C extensions raised an exception *and* returned a
> result: that's a bug. The strange part is that in some cases, the
> exceptions is somehow ignored and the program continues running fine.
>
> That's why I added _Py_CheckFunctionResult() and _Py_CheckSlotResult()
> which helped to catch such bugs. But before that, these programs were
> running fine :-)
>
> So it's not fully clear to me there was really a bug or it's just that
> Python became more pedantic :-)
>
>
> About PyErr_BadInternalCall(): in 10 years, I saw a few SystemError
> raised by this function, but usually when I hacked on Python. It's
> really rare to hit such bug.
>
>
> > (I still haven't gotten into the habit of building in debug mode by
> default, in part because it *isn't* the default when you invoke ./configure
> or PCbuild/build.bat.)
>
> If you don't develop C extensions, the release mode is faster and enough
> ;-)
>
> Ah. I don't know if CIs like GitHub Actions and Azure Pipelines
> provide Python debug builds. If if it's not the case, it would be nice
> to have the choice :-)
>

They do not:
https://github.com/actions/python-versions/blob/797eb71c41e47d194f563c7ef01790d734534788/builders/ubuntu-python-builder.psm1#L35-L38
.
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