On 5/15/2023 3:26 AM, Barry wrote:
On 15 May 2023, at 05:39, Thomas Passin <li...@tompassin.net> wrote:
On 5/14/2023 11:08 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 12:07, Thomas Passin <li...@tompassin.net> wrote:
Well, no, why would you assume that? I started to use Linux - in VMs -
because I had to make sure that my cross-platform java/jython Tomcat
program would work right on Linux. Why, for example, would I think to
install Idle from the package manager when it, or things like that, were
always in my experience installed with pip? For that matter, "sudo
apt-get install pip" won't install pip. You need to use a different
name, and it may or may not be different for different distros.
If you EVER had to install something other than a Python package, you
would have had to make use of the system package manager. You're
right, there are multiple obvious ways to install Idle, but that
doesn't mean that the package manager isn't one of them.
Yes, after a while I came to realize that missing Python pieces might be
available from the package manager. That doesn't mean it's obvious, or easy to
discover just what names to use. And sometimes one has to add a new external
repository. Personally, I don't find it easy to scroll through hundreds of
lines in the synaptics search results looking for something whose name I can
only partly guess at. If I know the command line equivalent for a search, I
could do a grep and that would probably be more focused. But trying to work
with a dozen different distros because various clients might use them - it's
hard to keep details straight.
Anyway, there's no point in trying to convince me that I could have understood
everything at the start that I may have learned later. I'm just interested in
passing on things I've learned along that way that a newcomer to Python in
Linux may not realize.
Being a Fedora user i needed to learn how to install missing pieces of pyrhon
on ubuntu.
We searches for:
ubuntu install pip
Ubuntu install idle
Both provide lots of answers. Did your searches fail to turn up answers?
No, that's what I had to do too, that and scan through package manager
searches.
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