On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:58:59 +0000, John Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Quanta is regarded by the taxman as a "self trading company", that is to say it trades solely for the
benefit of its members, and thus it is not liable for tax on its earnings from sales to them.
Are Quanta actually allowed to sell to non-members in that case? Assuming sales to non-members are allowed, tax would presumably have to be paid. And you'd have to keep records.


It wouldn't matter. A solution such as the one I propose would have someone else making the actual sale :-)


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Quanta is registered as a 'Friendly Society' and as such is exempt from VAT and Corporation Tax provided all trade is internal.
Should Quanta be found to be trading with the general public then corporation tax becomes due on ALL profit.
That is why no charges are made for entry to workshops. Keeping tax records is already done and an Inland Revenue return is made every year.

In that case, it is a good job that I remain a Quanta member whilst I continue to purchase second hand items from Quanta for sale to both members and non members alike :-)


If the Jan Jones book were sold through a third party, then the third party would have to hold the agreement, not Quanta.
The current agreement is with Quanta for books printed and sold by Quanta.
You could say, that the agreement was made with Quanta on the understanding that Quanta sold to it's members, avoiding that, whichever way you choose, would in my understanding be inadmissible.

I do not understand this argument - in principle, using an online publisher to print copies on demand, would only be the same as Quanta using a publisher to produce say 100 copies of the book. If Quanta had to limit sales to members only, then so be it (presumably as a member, I could purchase copies for resale, as I do with the second hand items).


Otherwise, if Quanta are not willing to do this themselves, then perhaps they would write to Jan Jones and explain the situation and ask her to contact myself directly, in which case I would offer the book for sale and have it printed on an on demand basis.

The other option would be for the book to be distributed by Quanta as a PDF file only - this would incur no printing costs whatsoever (other than the cost and time of providing a link to a downloadable version to buyers).

<<cut>>
This may sound unpalatable, but it needed saying. The secretary has asked for nominations for the three officers and up to six other committee members.
Is anybody doing anything?

No idea - If health permitted, I would join the committee, but then 90% of all committee meetings and workshops are now held south of London which is too far for me to travel at the moment. Seems as though I will miss the 21st anniversary meeting as well for the same reason...


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