Andreas,

Was this necessary? For decency, remove this response too. It hits back
on Qooxdoo.

Kent

On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 16:04 +0200, Andreas Ecker wrote:
> Sorry, Kent,
> 
> what you have posted here on this list recently is complete nonsense!  :-(
> 
> Just a few of your last week's postings:
> 
> Kent Olsson wrote:
> > One negative thing is that Sebastian has opened up the software, but
> > not as much as it deserves. It slows development too much. It must be
> > changed in some or the other way, else dedicated and brave developers
> > will choose other libraries to support and contribute.
> 
> > Sebastian is a very driven person and in one sense too much drive for
> >  this project. It means that things stop and nothing or very little 
> > happens when he does not have time to spend for Qooxdoo for any
> > reason. It is detrimental for the project, because a lot of people
> > spend a lot of time to get things working with Qooxdoo.
> 
> > Sebastian! I think you should take it all as constructive critics and
> > not destructive, else I would not be her. Please, do not go into
> > defense mode! :-)
> 
> > Please, read the other threads! If you put them together, you will 
> > understand the picture, even though it hurts in some sense, it should
> > be felt as a relief.
> 
> > This is really rude! There are a couple of people who really have 
> > contributed here, but you do not even realise it! THis is the
> > problem. I do not need to comment more, cause it is
> > self-explanatory.:-)
> 
> 
> Kent, we find it extremely annoying and embarrassing how you keep 
> constantly complaining here or even being offensive on a personal level. 
> By "we" I speak of a group of developers that either created qooxdoo, 
> substantially contributed to it or keep being actively involved in its 
> development. Since it is mostly Sebastian that is visible to the outside 
> (mailingslist, commits), that fact may not be so obvious.
> 
> Everyone is invited to be an active or passive part of the qooxdoo 
> community. It is a matter of course that interaction may be challenging 
> on a technical level. Nonetheless, it must not be driven by personal 
> dislikes. We do not accept ourselves or other community members being 
> insulted repeatedly - subtly or blatantly.
> 
> qooxdoo has intentionally been made available as an open-source project 
> to share it with the community and let interested members get involved. 
> Without a doubt, it is and will always be sort of incomplete, but 
> hopefully appealing enough for people to make it better by time. To 
> support this process, any feedback or critisism that is based on facts 
> and that leads to a constructive atmosphere of discussion is highly 
> appreciated.
> 
> If you, Kent, have any such valuable input, it will - as it has always 
> been - be very welcome. As you apparently call yourself a "dedicated and 
> brave developer" that does not feel the project to be enough "opened 
> up", you might be interested in fixing and cleaning-up your contribution 
> that is distributed with the project under source/contribution/*_olsson?
> Unfortunately, most of your contributions either do not work, some could 
> have never worked, refer to non-existing parts or seem to be highly 
> redundant. It is quite disappointing, since this has apparently been the 
> case for weeks now. I suppose, all qooxdoo users would rather prefer to 
> see your energy and devotion go into making your very own contributions 
> first-class quality.
> 
> Many fine people on this list actually use qooxdoo either in private, 
> non-commercial or commercial projects. They simply have fun playing 
> around with it or actively contribute to it in many different ways. 
> Sure, sometimes communication may get tedious, but in general it is a 
> pleasure to work with any community member. None of them constantly 
> talks politics, complains without comprehensible facts, makes dubious 
> statements that can not be proven, posts false answers to questions that 
> have already been answered, leaves the impression of being an 
> authoritative source of information and worst of all gets offensive on a 
> personal level.
> 
> If you are seriously interested in supporting qooxdoo in a positive way, 
> you will certainly have to rethink your way of participation,
> 
> Andreas
> 
> 
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