Gotcha, thanks. As long as we were warned! I thought I remembered Sam mentioning something along the lines of an "AWS grant," but my memory is unreliable here.
On 11/22/21 9:57 AM, John Clements wrote: > Good questions: > > 1) Yes, Sam mentioned the discourse group at RacketCon, and there was some > “hallway” discussion about it. > 2) No, no sponsor was involved. Yikes! Indeed, I’m not aware that Racket > *has* any sponsors currently, aside from the research and infrastructure > grants that are being funded by the NSF et cetera. > > John > >> On Nov 22, 2021, at 09:52, Sage Gerard <s...@sagegerard.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks for checking on this. I'd expect something like a CoC more than a ToS >> in this case, but terms are terms :) >> If you don't mind, I have a couple of follow up questions. >> >> • Were "rank-and-file" Racket contributors alerted to this change in >> advance? Say, in a RacketCon speech? I may have missed it. >> • Did a sponsor play any role in this transition? >> On 11/22/21 9:49 AM, John Clements wrote: >>> I’m actually very heartened to see the boilerplate here; it sounds like >>> this is something we can edit, and not something imposed by Discourse. If >>> that’s the case, then it certainly seems likely that we can find some >>> language (or, more importantly, *lack* of language) that makes more of us >>> happy. >>> >>> I, for one, am shocked to see binding arbitration language in here: I think >>> binding arbitration is one of the most revolting elements of corporate >>> control in our society today, and if we were unable to remove the binding >>> arbitration clause, I would likely abandon discourse myself. >>> >>> Sounds like the next step is to come up with a TOS that’s acceptable to >>> all, or find a way to remove it entirely. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>>> On Nov 22, 2021, at 04:54, Norman Gray <norman.g...@glasgow.ac.uk> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Greetings. >>>> >>>> On 22 Nov 2021, at 4:24, Sage Gerard wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> But I have to ask, who wrote the ToS? Who is "the company" in its >>>>> >>>>> context? Discord? One of the Racket team's universities? A sponsor? >>>>> >>>> I'm not sure who 'the company' is, either, but they appear to be called >>>> 'company_name' (catchy!), and that users are notified that disputes can >>>> only be arbitrated in city_for_disputes, under governing_law. *cough* >>>> >>>> Such curiosities aside, all of that does represent unappealingly more >>>> legalese than one expects for a mailing list. But since the current list >>>> is hosted at googlegroups, and since it's not obvious that Discourse Corp >>>> is more predatory than Google Corp (indeed, the former is dispensing >>>> freemium-ware rather than ad-ware, so are more attractive in terms of >>>> business model), it feels irrational for me to be too put off by it. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> >>>> Norman >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Norman Gray : >>>> https://nxg.me.uk >>>> >>>> SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Racket Users" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to >>>> racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> . >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/BEC261BF-C274-4221-8F62-C77D181ED1EF%40glasgow.ac.uk >>>> . >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/b78997fa-d576-10a9-8911-76035f9bc83a%40sagegerard.com.
