The Dream bar was the classic standard drop bar made for Rivendell by 
Nitto. If I remember correctly its what they offered prior to the Noodle. 
It was sold along with the Noodle bar for a bit before they just dropped it 
because the Noodle was the drop they would suggest over all others. 

On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 7:32:41 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Thanks for the clarification.  My posts weren't meant to be adversarial, 
> just pedantic.  I came into Riv via EcoVelo ~2010, and I didn't own my 
> first Riv until 2013, so the "Soba" predates me, and I thought that y'all 
> were using it colloquially for "So Bar"--the marketing content from Sim 
> Works makes references to literal soba noodles.  I'm curious if the 
> contemporary "So Bar" is inspired by the "Soba".
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway Bennett
> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 12:48 AM Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The Simworks So Bar is a handlebar that resembles a Nitto Noodle but in a 
>> wide width that was made in the late 2010s and early 2020s
>>
>> The Nitto Soba Noodle is a completely different handlebar that was made 
>> by Nitto and offered by Rivendell in the mid to late 2000s 
>>
>> Do not conflate the two.  This thread and WTB is focused on the Nitto 
>> Soba Noodle -NOT- the Simworks So Bar. 
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from 
>>> Sim Works:
>>>
>>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar
>>>
>>> They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so 
>>> I don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm 
>>> Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was 
>>> released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.
>>>
>>> It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  
>>> Sim Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily 
>>> discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."
>>>
>>> I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use 
>>> the Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning 
>>> Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All 
>>> Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm 
>>> Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got 
>>> wider.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fair winds,
>>>
>>> Captain Conway Bennett
>>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett <captaincon...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
>>>> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
>>>> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
>>>> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
>>>> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
>>>> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate 
>>>> the 
>>>> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
>>>> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm 
>>>> ones 
>>>> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
>>>> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
>>>> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell 
>>>>> them.  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  
>>>>> That's 
>>>>> my advice.  ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> BL in EC
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