The abbreviations are used for the larger place in which a local place is located.
This is used in authorized access points: 151 $a Seattle (Wash.) And in the location of a conference or location of a corporate body or family and place of origin of work: 111 2_ $a International Conference on RDA $d (2013 : $c Seattle, Wash.) 100 3_ $a Ramsey (Family : $c Seattle, Wash.) 110 2_ $a RDA Explanation Society (Seattle, Wash.) 110 2_ $a Republican Party (Pa.) 130 _0 $a Big Brother (Television program : U.S.) And it is also used in the individual elements that record places, such as place of birth, place of death, associated country, place of origin of work, location of headquarters, etc. etc.: 370 $a Seattle, Wash. $b Auckland, N.Z. $c U.S. 370 $g U.S. 370 $e Portland, Or. But it is not used for transcribed elements like place of publication, place of manufacture, edition statement, numbering associated with series statement, etc. If the transcribed data itself has an abbreviation or postal code, you transcribe it as it is found. But if you are supplying data not found in the resource, you would not generally use any abbreviations. So if I know a book was published in Seattle even though it doesn’t say it in the resource, you don’t use the abbreviations from the appendix: 264 _1 $a [Seattle, Washington] or 250 $a Saskatchewan edition. [not Sask. ed.] Adam Schiff Principal Cataloger University of Washington Libraries From: Liptack, Vanessa Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:09 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question I'm confused as to why rda has an appendix for abbreviations including geographic locations.. Anyone know when we use these? I assumed we we once again using them for place of publication? Anyone know please clear my confusion for me. Thanks! Sent from my iPad On Jul 3, 2013, at 11:57 AM, "Patricia Sayre-McCoy" <p...@uchicago.edu> wrote: But in this case, there’s nothing to transcribe. The place of publication is cataloger supplied. Pat Patricia Sayre-McCoy Head, Law Cataloging and Serials D’Angelo Law Library University of Chicago 773-702-9620 p...@uchicago.edu From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 11:02 AM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question Appendix B does not apply to “transcribed elements” (see B.4). The Pubication Statement is a transcribed element (see 2.8.1.4). Also B.4 instructs “If supplying all or part of a transcribed element, generally do not abbreviate words.” Bob Robert L. Maxwell Head, Special Collections and Formats Catalog Dept. 6728 Harold B. Lee Library Brigham Young University Provo, UT 84602 (801)422-5568 "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842. From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Patricia Sayre-McCoy Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 9:52 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question Per Appendix B.1 state names are included in the “approved” abbreviations. And the LC-PCC Policy statement at 1.10.2 says local institutions can establish their own guidelines for many things, including abbreviations. Pat Patricia Sayre-McCoy Head, Law Cataloging and Serials D’Angelo Law Library University of Chicago 773-702-9620 p...@uchicago.edu From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Adam Schiff Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:43 AM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question Oops, I meant if you are supplying a place, you wouldn’t use a postal abbreviation. From: Adam Schiff Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 8:39 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question It would not be correct to use “SC” in your place of publication. If you are supplying a date, you wouldn’t use a postal abbreviation. Either [Charleston] or [Charleston, South Carolina]. Adam Schiff From: Patricia Mary Gierke Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 7:21 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question Hi Mary I agree wholeheartedly – ever SO grateful for this list ! And, if I may say so, I think your final decision is SPOT ON! I believe we are encouraged to SUPPLY a place of publication or probable place whenever possible….which is what you’ve done. And you obviously KNOW that the book is self-published because it is stated somewhere. Bravo! Trish Gierke (Cataloguer) Durban University of Technology Library PO Box 1334 Durban 4000 South Africa gier...@dut.ac.za +27-31-3735458 From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Saunders, Mary Sent: 03 July 2013 01:45 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 question Thanks to all who responded. I have decided to make a single 264 1 [Charleston, SC?] : $b Author’s name, $c [2013] As I feel my way along with RDA, I am truly grateful for this discussion list! Mary Saunders, Cataloger Maine State Library 64 State House Station Augusta, ME 04333-0064 mary.saund...@maine.gov 207-287-5620 207-287-5638 FAX ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This e-mail is subject to our Disclaimer, to view click http://www.dut.ac.za/disclaimer"